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968

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12,439 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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anyone watching programme on bbc1?

discuss....

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Well I'm half watching it but I'm listening to Def Leppard at the same time and posting on here, waiting for 'Escape From Alcatraz' to come on. Seems to involve some people shifting dodgy gear because they're skint. Needs must, I suppose.

However, that's all I know - what's the story then?

kenny chim 4

1,604 posts

287 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Nope, watching No Angels on 4- and as a medical bod 968, it would either confirm what you already know or surprise you!

>> Edited by kenny chim 4 on Tuesday 3rd May 23:06

moleamol

15,887 posts

292 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Shanay is hot.

968

Original Poster:

12,439 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Twincam16 said:
Well I'm half watching it but I'm listening to Def Leppard at the same time and posting on here, waiting for 'Escape From Alcatraz' to come on. Seems to involve some people shifting dodgy gear because they're skint. Needs must, I suppose.

However, that's all I know - what's the story then?


I am in the same state as you, however, isn't it sad? Sad in many different ways... sad that people stoop so low, in some cases, sad that some people are so desparate, sad that some people are so stupid, like the woman, heavily pregnant with a fag in her mouth....

968

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12,439 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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kenny chim 4 said:
Nope, watching No Angels on 4- and as a medical bod 968, it would either confirm what you already know or surprise you!

>> Edited by kenny chim 4 on Tuesday 3rd May 23:06


yeah, no surprises there....

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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968 said:

Twincam16 said:
Well I'm half watching it but I'm listening to Def Leppard at the same time and posting on here, waiting for 'Escape From Alcatraz' to come on. Seems to involve some people shifting dodgy gear because they're skint. Needs must, I suppose.

However, that's all I know - what's the story then?



I am in the same state as you, however, isn't it sad? Sad in many different ways... sad that people stoop so low, in some cases, sad that some people are so desparate, sad that some people are so stupid, like the woman, heavily pregnant with a fag in her mouth....


Yeah. TBH some people bring it on themselves and others could help it but don't.

However, either way, there is no excuse for introducing a child to it all. I see some of those people pregnant or with a pushchair and all I can think of is 'oh look, another chav'.

Being skint is nothing to be ashamed of - hell, I'm close to being skint FFS, I'm a stoodent! - but it's what you do with yourself when you're skint that is the measure of you.

rich1231

17,340 posts

289 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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yeah watched it a few times. Almost all of those featured though have brought it upon themselves.

The one that has made me laugh though is the old bsuker bloke that is still convinced he is gifted musically...

968

Original Poster:

12,439 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Twincam16 said:
Well I'm half watching it but I'm listening to Def Leppard at the same time and posting on here, waiting for 'Escape From Alcatraz' to come on. Seems to involve some people shifting dodgy gear because they're skint. Needs must, I suppose.

However, that's all I know - what's the story then?


by the way, escape from alcatraz is a top top movie.....

aspender

1,405 posts

294 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Me and the missus have watched it for a number of weeks now, and are constantly amazed at what goes on! It seems that it is de-rigeur to smoke and drink when pregnant, be able to get off from repeat offences (e.g. beating up a copper - whilst preggers I might add) and I'm thinking of opening up a pawnbrokers because that must be the easiest money ever! The owner of cash converters said last night that his store manager did a good job and "kept me away from the customers" I suspect he meant that more as "kept the customers well away from me thankyouverymuch"

Good to see that Vernon is making a re-appearance next week, after we were told he had been taken into psychiatric care a few weeks ago. To me he is the only one (possibly joined by the busker) who has actually come across as not being a complete scrounger.

welsh blackbird

692 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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One of the characters on last night's programme was a traffic warden who was on the sick.

He went to court for driving whilst disqualified. The original disqualification was for drink driving!

Poetic justice!

john75

5,303 posts

276 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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welsh blackbird said:
One of the characters on last night's programme was a traffic warden who was on the sick.

He went to court for driving whilst disqualified. The original disqualification was for drink driving!

Poetic justice!


Would be nice to see scamera operator on there for speeding.

dieseljohn

2,114 posts

285 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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aspender said:

Good to see that Vernon is making a re-appearance next week, after we were told he had been taken into psychiatric care a few weeks ago. To me he is the only one (possibly joined by the busker) who has actually come across as not being a complete scrounger.


Agreed, if the part of my tax bill that goes as benefits were for helping people like this I would pay with a smile but the 'family' with the smoking mother were utter scum.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

294 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Watched that last night, its near compulsive viewing... Very worrying in some cases though.

I mean can you honestly tell me that you'd pawn your wedding rings? For anything other than a life or death situation?

I sure as hell wouldnt...

Btw that pregnant girl, they really really should give warnings before a closeup of her face. Is she possibly the most terrifying beast ever shown on TV?

welsh blackbird

692 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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TheLemming said:

Btw that pregnant girl, they really really should give warnings before a closeup of her face. Is she possibly the most terrifying beast ever shown on TV?


I can't imagine how she got pregnant in the first place!

rich1231

17,340 posts

289 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Back on subject for a moment, the problem is that though we generally here at PH can see what scum some of the benefit, smoking while preghant brigade are. A growing minority of the population see their behaviour as normal.

Also saw a new episode of Wife swap on e4 the other night... And that was as depressing.

Again we encourage everyone at every stage in life to not perform to the best of their abilities. To not even try as there is a safetynet. The safety net is there or should be there to only help the really needy. Not those that have decided that they would rather smoke and srink all day rather than contribute.

dieseljohn

2,114 posts

285 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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rich1231 said:
A growing minority



Something to do with the fact that these types of families often have 4-6 kids while hard working profesional types have 0-2?

>> Edited by dieseljohn on Wednesday 4th May 13:29

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Here's a quote I used in a recent essay from a sociologist called Melanie Phillips that I think sums up the problems with this country today:

Melanie Phillips said:
“the very notion of setting an example is regarded with horror as elitist. Yet that is what elites are supposed to be: elitist. Once, they regarded it as their duty to embody by personal example and in public policy the philosophy that bourgeois values were a way of raising the sights of the lowest, enabling them to rise out of poverty and social disadvantage. That project has been turned on its head. Bourgeois values have become despised. So marriage was attacked; literacy was attacked; formal sanctions policing civilized values against wrongdoing through criminal punishment and informal sanctions policing them through stigma were attacked. The very idea of the respectable and normal became seen as oppressive. So the unrespectable and abnormal became not just tolerated but de rigeur.” (Phillips, 2001 p. 27).


I chose this quote almost specifically to stuff down the throats of my touchy-feely lentilist tutors. I hope they learn something by it.