Ebay moron - can you explain this?
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Ok - I buy and sell the odd luxury watch now and again on ebay.
So last week I my second Omega Speedmaster Professional MoonWatch up for sale, with a "Buy It Now" of £800.
A new user with zero feedback, who reistered the same day, uses the Buy It Now feature.
Let's just say I'm not confident at this point.
So I email him. No response.
Over the next five days I email and invoice him several times. Nothing.
I then request contact details from ebay, and there is a phone number. I call this, leave a message and they get bak to me. They know nothing of this, although strangely, the person I am speaking to has a similar sounding name as the one registered on ebay.
So now fully satisified that there will be no sale I send an email to the bidder that is carefully designed to make them feel suicidal.
But what has been going on here? Why on earth do this people do this? It really does seem utterly pointless and futile.
And also, I thought you had to have a valid credit card and verifiable contact details to register with ebay - in that case ebay simply can't be checking, can they?
Anyone here able to throw some light? I really am bemused...
(Oh...and anyone want a watch? lol)
So last week I my second Omega Speedmaster Professional MoonWatch up for sale, with a "Buy It Now" of £800.
A new user with zero feedback, who reistered the same day, uses the Buy It Now feature.
Let's just say I'm not confident at this point.
So I email him. No response.
Over the next five days I email and invoice him several times. Nothing.
I then request contact details from ebay, and there is a phone number. I call this, leave a message and they get bak to me. They know nothing of this, although strangely, the person I am speaking to has a similar sounding name as the one registered on ebay.
So now fully satisified that there will be no sale I send an email to the bidder that is carefully designed to make them feel suicidal.
But what has been going on here? Why on earth do this people do this? It really does seem utterly pointless and futile.
And also, I thought you had to have a valid credit card and verifiable contact details to register with ebay - in that case ebay simply can't be checking, can they?
Anyone here able to throw some light? I really am bemused...
(Oh...and anyone want a watch? lol)
wanty1974 said:
No, you only need an email address to register - it's only when you come to pay through Paypal that you need a ccard number.
For all the popularity of eBay, and the number of really decent people using it, there are some absolute scum on there.
Are you sure about this??? I am staggered if it is true.
I joined nearly six years ago, and you needed a CC then. Surely they have to do this to prevent under 18's registering, or many accounts by the same person?
I have just checked - you need to have a CC to register if you are using a web-based email account - as the guy who bid on my watch did.
However, if you are registering with a company, organization or incredibly a school or ISP email addy you don't need the credit card.
What on earth are ebay thinking of? They must be utterly mad!
However, if you are registering with a company, organization or incredibly a school or ISP email addy you don't need the credit card.
What on earth are ebay thinking of? They must be utterly mad!
wanty1974 said:
No, you only need an email address to register - it's only when you come to pay through Paypal that you need a ccard number.
For all the popularity of eBay, and the number of really decent people using it, there are some absolute scum on there.
You still need a c/c if you use one of the popular free e-mail providers - Hotmail, Yahoo etc.
scummers can still use some of the lesser known ones or buy their own domain for webmail forwarding to circumvent this control.
It's mindless isn't it? I would have sold my car before Christmas if some 0-feedback t
t hadn't been a non-paying bidder. I expect he was just back from the pub and having a laugh. Gave address as 'Reading, London' and the phone number was a dud. Needless to say I reported him and soon afterwards saw he was deregistered. Asshole.
t hadn't been a non-paying bidder. I expect he was just back from the pub and having a laugh. Gave address as 'Reading, London' and the phone number was a dud. Needless to say I reported him and soon afterwards saw he was deregistered. Asshole.simpo two said:
It's mindless isn't it? I would have sold my car before Christmas if some 0-feedback t t hadn't been a non-paying bidder. I expect he was just back from the pub and having a laugh. Gave address as 'Reading, London' and the phone number was a dud. Needless to say I reported him and soon afterwards saw he was deregistered. Asshole.
I simply cannot understand why ebay would allow anyone to register without having a valid credit card or other means of independently verifying their ID.
I actually think ebay are a dreadful company who have almost total disregard for their customers. Sadly at the moment they are in such an unassailable position that they don't really need to care either.
Unfortunately as they sit on their complacency, the entire ebay system is being slowly eroded by crooks, scammers and timewasting idiots. The amount of fake watches on ebay is now astonishing - I can only conclude that ebay don't care.
Unless they take dicisive action, I can forsee ebay becoming almost unusuable in a few years, with customer confidence slipping away.
Perhaps then another on-line auction site can step in and actually manage it's users effectively.
The ebay experience is always spoilt by the zero people. Once you've got out from the scum at the bottom its a worthwhile thing.
I think the thing ebay should do is to only allow someone to partake on an autction where you have specified a certain feedback rating.
As for their double listing scam - they'll soon be on Watchdog.
I think the thing ebay should do is to only allow someone to partake on an autction where you have specified a certain feedback rating.
As for their double listing scam - they'll soon be on Watchdog.
FourWheelDrift said:
tinman0 said:
I think the thing ebay should do is to only allow someone to partake on an autction where you have specified a certain feedback rating
How will genuine new people ever be able to bid on anything.?
Anyway I haven't and will never use Ebay for all the reasons above.
You invite them to contact you to start with and you allow them to be added to the auction.
A fairly quick email conversation will determine whether they can speak English.
tinman0 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
tinman0 said:
I think the thing ebay should do is to only allow someone to partake on an autction where you have specified a certain feedback rating
How will genuine new people ever be able to bid on anything.?
Anyway I haven't and will never use Ebay for all the reasons above.
You invite them to contact you to start with and you allow them to be added to the auction.
A fairly quick email conversation will determine whether they can speak English.
That is a brilliant idea Tinman.
Until they get to say five positive they have to get permission from the seller to bid first.
I will try to pass that on to ebay - but even getting in touch with the damned company is incredibly difficult.
anonymous said:
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Err.. this is the Norm on Ebay anyway...!
Most "seasoned" advertisers state this at the bottom of their listings for anything of any value as a matter of course.
E.G. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9808&item=4545989352&rd=1
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Tuesday 3rd May 15:55
M@H said:
anonymous said:[redacted]
Err.. this is the Norm on Ebay anyway...!
Most "seasoned" advertisers state this at the bottom of their listings for anything of any value as a matter of course.
Cheers,
Matt
Yes - I do also.
But if you have a Buy It Now feature it doesn't stop a Zero clicking the button. Neither does it stop a Zero nipping in and bidding in the closing seconds of an auction.
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