Discovery to be manufactured in Slovakia!
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Saw this on the BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44438846
A sad day for UK manufacturing and Solihull in particular.
A sad day for UK manufacturing and Solihull in particular.
Not fake news,its been in planning for some time.
This has been slowed down by an investigation.
https://www.google.com/search?q=land+rover+investi...
I am sure everything will be found to be in order and when it is,they will move production of other models out there.
I also doubt the PCP crowd who choose these things will give a toss where they are made.
This has been slowed down by an investigation.
https://www.google.com/search?q=land+rover+investi...
I am sure everything will be found to be in order and when it is,they will move production of other models out there.
I also doubt the PCP crowd who choose these things will give a toss where they are made.
TRIUMPHBULLET said:
Not fake news,its been in planning for some time.
This has been slowed down by an investigation.
https://www.google.com/search?q=land+rover+investi...
I am sure everything will be found to be in order and when it is,they will move production of other models out there.
I also doubt the PCP crowd who choose these things will give a toss where they are made.
I can't remember the thread, but about 6 months ago I said this was going to happen (and more - including the job cuts) and a lot of the PH'ers on that thread didn't believe it. TATA couldn't possibly remove JLR from the UK, regardless of their plant in Slovakia. But, here we are.This has been slowed down by an investigation.
https://www.google.com/search?q=land+rover+investi...
I am sure everything will be found to be in order and when it is,they will move production of other models out there.
I also doubt the PCP crowd who choose these things will give a toss where they are made.
Current talk amongst those on the front line is that this affects everyone at Solihull, and possibly Castle Brom as they're already looking to downsize that plant. Come Christmas there will either be job losses or cut backs in shifts. But, eventually, there won't be a JLR car made in the UK. It'll all be in Slovakia, as their Slovakian plant is big enough to absorb Liverpool, Solihull and Castle Brom and still have room enough to enlarge.
It wasn't 10 years ago when the unions and the workers struck a deal with JLR to keep the company going, as it's easy to forget how close to bankruptcy they were. Now, well they just don't give a s
t about them. When MG Rover went bump, in my secondary school alone, 700 out of 1,200 pupils were directly affected by their parents losing their jobs. That figure will almost certainly increase if/when JLR move. And, to be quite honest, the workers won't be helped this time around either. Pickled Piper said:
It's not really news. It's been planned for at least a couple of years.
It frees up capacity in the UK and also hedges against any tariffs on incoming parts and / outgoing cars that may result from Brexit.
Not great to see some production leave the UK but if Land Rover want to be a big player then it would not be the only one to move SOME production to other parts of the world. I think it's a bit over the top to think it's all going to leave the UK.It frees up capacity in the UK and also hedges against any tariffs on incoming parts and / outgoing cars that may result from Brexit.
swisstoni said:
Pickled Piper said:
It's not really news. It's been planned for at least a couple of years.
It frees up capacity in the UK and also hedges against any tariffs on incoming parts and / outgoing cars that may result from Brexit.
Not great to see some production leave the UK but if Land Rover want to be a big player then it would not be the only one to move SOME production to other parts of the world. I think it's a bit over the top to think it's all going to leave the UK.It frees up capacity in the UK and also hedges against any tariffs on incoming parts and / outgoing cars that may result from Brexit.
The only difference here is that, instead of the forecast "some production across a few models" moving to SK, which would make sense if it was a brexit-hedge, it's "all D5 for everywhere", with some coming back to the UK.
swisstoni said:
Pickled Piper said:
It's not really news. It's been planned for at least a couple of years.
It frees up capacity in the UK and also hedges against any tariffs on incoming parts and / outgoing cars that may result from Brexit.
Not great to see some production leave the UK but if Land Rover want to be a big player then it would not be the only one to move SOME production to other parts of the world. I think it's a bit over the top to think it's all going to leave the UK.It frees up capacity in the UK and also hedges against any tariffs on incoming parts and / outgoing cars that may result from Brexit.
Whether it has any impact on the quality of the cars, for better or worse, there will be a good number of buyers who will be put off by this.
For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
On the other hand I wouldn’t object to the new Defender being built there if it kept the price down to a sensible level. I think it’s the idea of buying a ‘premium’ car that’s been built
in a cut-price country that puts me off.
For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
On the other hand I wouldn’t object to the new Defender being built there if it kept the price down to a sensible level. I think it’s the idea of buying a ‘premium’ car that’s been built
in a cut-price country that puts me off.
sgtBerbatov said:
It wasn't 10 years ago when the unions and the workers struck a deal with JLR to keep the company going, as it's easy to forget how close to bankruptcy they were. Now, well they just don't give a st about them.
So what you’re saying is, if the workers and union hadn’t struck the deal, they’d have all been out of a job years ago?t about them. Crumpet said:
Whether it has any impact on the quality of the cars, for better or worse, there will be a good number of buyers who will be put off by this.
For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
It will be interesting to see if anyone outside of the UK gives a crap where they’re built though, or even knows where they’re built now... Also to see whether the quality improves or not - given the various threads here and elsewhere, it can’t exactly dip! For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
DanL said:
It will be interesting to see if anyone outside of the UK gives a crap where they’re built though, or even knows where they’re built now... Also to see whether the quality improves or not - given the various threads here and elsewhere, it can’t exactly dip!
Well, that’s a fair point. I’m not sure how I’d feel if in a few years I sat in a Slovakian D5 and no bits of trim were falling off or rattling! I guess I’d feel like they’d completely destroyed the tradition and heritage of the LR product! 
Crumpet said:
Whether it has any impact on the quality of the cars, for better or worse, there will be a good number of buyers who will be put off by this.
For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
There could well be potential buyers who think the complete opposite.For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
Sheepshanks said:
Crumpet said:
Whether it has any impact on the quality of the cars, for better or worse, there will be a good number of buyers who will be put off by this.
For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
There could well be potential buyers who think the complete opposite.For me the ‘made in England’ tag actually meant something and added weight to the decision to actually buy a LR product over one of the German rivals. It’s the nail in the coffin for the D5 for me.
Pickled Piper said:
The experience of other premium car manufacturers suggest that most customers don't really care where the car was built. As long as the "Brand" retains it's identity.
Minis have been built in NL for the last four years. Then there's all those prestige German brands assembling around the world - Porsches and Audis from Slovakia, Mercs from Hungary and South Africa, BMW and Merc importing to the UK from the US. The mainstream brands have had plants left, right and centre for donkeys' years, of course.DanL said:
It will be interesting to see if anyone outside of the UK gives a crap where they’re built though, or even knows where they’re built now... Also to see whether the quality improves or not - given the various threads here and elsewhere, it can’t exactly dip!
Exactly. The Slovaks cant possibly do any worse than the st job the brummies do.I am a LR owner and the quality is just piss poor.
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