Wacky races on the M25
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I embarked upon a journey from Frankfurt to Scotland. The first leg was fine through Germany, Holland and Belgium. Crossed the channel and set off on the last leg of the journey.
I forgot how bad the majority of drivers in the UK really are!!! Why does everyone sit in the right lane? You can't overtake if the lane is congested. Its actually slowing everyone down. Most people just dangerously undertake the rest of the traffic but what else can you do! The lack of driving skills (common sense) forces the good drivers to drive in a manner that they are not likely to otherwise.
This was on a Saturday afternoon, would not like to drive along the M25 at rush hour!!!
Any M25 locals got some tips for my next adventure? I already thought about the helicopter.
I forgot how bad the majority of drivers in the UK really are!!! Why does everyone sit in the right lane? You can't overtake if the lane is congested. Its actually slowing everyone down. Most people just dangerously undertake the rest of the traffic but what else can you do! The lack of driving skills (common sense) forces the good drivers to drive in a manner that they are not likely to otherwise.
This was on a Saturday afternoon, would not like to drive along the M25 at rush hour!!!
Any M25 locals got some tips for my next adventure? I already thought about the helicopter.
British driving is appalling but density of traffic is partly to blame as people get too nervous about pulling in and letting others pass as you can get stuck in the inner lane as another queue of kamakazi drivers hurtle down the outside.
Almost witnessed a horiffic crash there on Friday. The traffic backed up and all the lemmings coming down Reigate Hill were diving across lanes to avoid each other. It was a miracle that no one crashed.
Tips? Get it into your head that you can only cruise on the M25, not make any rapid progress.
Almost witnessed a horiffic crash there on Friday. The traffic backed up and all the lemmings coming down Reigate Hill were diving across lanes to avoid each other. It was a miracle that no one crashed.
Tips? Get it into your head that you can only cruise on the M25, not make any rapid progress.
You think that's as bad as it gets?
Yesterday, when I was leaving Thruxton to come home I was in steady traffic on the two lane A303 moving at about 40-50mph.
I glanced in the mirror to see a woman coming on the outside - where there is no lane! (just a gritted over old crossover junction) at about 70 mph in a Rav4 before she ducked in between the two cars behind me, went BETWEEN the two cars in the inside and outside lanes, pulled about a millimetre behind me and then whipped across to undertake me and the car I was overtaking with two wheels on the bloody verge.
She continued to do this for as far as I could see - I've never seen anything like it - really scary stuff!!! I was expecting to come across a real nightmare accident any minute.
Yesterday, when I was leaving Thruxton to come home I was in steady traffic on the two lane A303 moving at about 40-50mph.
I glanced in the mirror to see a woman coming on the outside - where there is no lane! (just a gritted over old crossover junction) at about 70 mph in a Rav4 before she ducked in between the two cars behind me, went BETWEEN the two cars in the inside and outside lanes, pulled about a millimetre behind me and then whipped across to undertake me and the car I was overtaking with two wheels on the bloody verge.
She continued to do this for as far as I could see - I've never seen anything like it - really scary stuff!!! I was expecting to come across a real nightmare accident any minute.
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I glanced in the mirror to see a woman coming on the outside - where there is no lane! (just a gritted over old crossover junction) at about 70 mph in a Rav4 before she ducked in between the two cars behind me, went BETWEEN the two cars in the inside and outside lanes, pulled about a millimetre behind me and then whipped across to undertake me and the car I was overtaking with two wheels on the bloody verge.
I encountered this fecking lunatic yesterday, heading toward Salisbury. Single carriage country road, overtaking on blind bends and hills in a long queue of bumper to bumper traffic. There were no gaps so she just barged in and made one!
About 15 mins after she overtook we passed her bumping back onto the road from what appeared to be an unscheduled stop in a hedge. Yet again she barged back through traffic like a lunatic.
As usual it wasn't until afterwards that I thought "phone the police!".
Must have been drunk or an escaped lunatic...
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I glanced in the mirror to see a woman coming on the outside - where there is no lane! (just a gritted over old crossover junction) at about 70 mph in a Rav4 before she ducked in between the two cars behind me, went BETWEEN the two cars in the inside and outside lanes, pulled about a millimetre behind me and then whipped across to undertake me and the car I was overtaking with two wheels on the bloody verge.
I encountered this fecking lunatic yesterday, heading toward Salisbury. Single carriage country road, overtaking on blind bends and hills in a long queue of bumper to bumper traffic. There were no gaps so she just barged in and made one!
About 15 mins after she overtook we passed her bumping back onto the road from what appeared to be an unscheduled stop in a hedge. Yet again she barged back through traffic like a lunatic.
As usual it wasn't until afterwards that I thought "phone the police!".
Must have been drunk or an escaped lunatic...
.....or PMT
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The Germans love to tailgate thats for sure. I have noticed they also like to drive in squashed up groups of about 4 - 5 cars.
Tailgating is THE major driving fault I have come to believe in the majority of drivers. They simply don't know (or believe) it is necessary to leave a decent gap. They therefore spend half their driving time hard on brakes avoiding running into the car in front.
Idiots. They've learned to do this in thirty limits where (at least) the consequences of a rear end shunt are limited. So they continue to do it everywhere else where its fcuking lethal.
The only mitigating view I can think of for this is that if you DO leave any kind of safety gap some total plonker immediately pulls into it forcing you to stand on the brakes in avoidance anyway...
I really wish it was possible to effectively police tailgating. Its not speed that kills. Its stupidity.
quote:I was told that going back 15 years or so, there was a 100+ car pile up outside Munich, which happened from start to finish in less than 10 seconds !!!
The Germans love to tailgate thats for sure. I have noticed they also like to drive in squashed up groups of about 4 - 5 cars.
But even in heavy traffic here in Frankfurt, its normally moving at a good pace.
I'll have a look if I can find something on it..
BTW German Autobahnen are mostly vastly overrated IMO - 2 lanes and lots of roadworks.. like the A1 north of Leeds really..
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BTW German Autobahnen are mostly vastly overrated IMO - 2 lanes and lots of roadworks.. like the A1 north of Leeds really..
Only in some areas. Most of the Autobahn in the Rhein area is in good shape. My weekend shopping run takes me to Straßbourg. Averaging 120 MPH... Unlike Leeds.
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I had a German Porsche on my tail once heading down the M20. I was going to pull over once I'd passed the next car, but whilst matey was waiting he practically got in the car with me he was so close. Then he got stressed when I flashed my brake lights at him. Knob.
You could try washing your windscreen, that usually makes them back off.
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I was told that going back 15 years or so, there was a 100+ car pile up outside Munich, which happened from start to finish in less than 10 seconds !!!
I can believe that. Even my better half says that the German roads would probably be close the the safest in the world if they kept their distance.
Rather ironically the penalty for tailgating is a driving ban (1 month +) and fine but most of the time the police don't bother.
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BTW German Autobahnen are mostly vastly overrated IMO - 2 lanes and lots of roadworks.. like the A1 north of Leeds really..
That's right; I've experienced that just yesterday afternoon: three hours for 400kms from the Dutch border to Frankfurt. Average 130kph-ish although I've floored it everytime I could. Thought to myself, they should legalise undertaking, so the numpties do every effort to drive on the outside lane.
When Autobahn enlarges from two to three lanes, you experience that heavy traffic suddenly appears to be fast moving.
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BTW German Autobahnen are mostly vastly overrated IMO - 2 lanes and lots of roadworks.. like the A1 north of Leeds really..
Only in some areas. Most of the Autobahn in the Rhein area is in good shape. My weekend shopping run takes me to Straßbourg. Averaging 120 MPH... Unlike Leeds.
So you're in central Baden then Deester? I'm on the CH-border by Basel. Time for a Pher Germany meet?
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So you're in central Baden then Deester? I'm on the CH-border by Basel. Time for a Pher Germany meet?
I spend most of my time working in Frankfurt.
Your pretty close! A meet sounds like fun!
On a clear day................. I seem to remember a song about that........ I can see for miles and miles ... oh f#ck my brains on the wrong tape.........
As I was saying before my old brain started to wander
About 2hrs 10 mins =350 km..... If you're blasting south praps we could meet. Pies on me!
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