Question about 911 GTS

Question about 911 GTS

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wighty

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57 posts

266 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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My friend is looking at a 911 GTS, 1996 P reg. At a large Porsche dealer in Newcastle. The asking price is 65k and it has 21,000 mile on the clock and is mint. Is this a good price? The car is Yellow and looks stunning, it is running at 450bhp and has factory mods only, it is also suppose to be 1 of 30 in the country.

domster

8,431 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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That is too expensive IMHO.

Early 40s would be about right. The 928 GTS was a lovely car, but the yellow 450bhp thing seems a funny mix of racer and grand tourer. This will limit its appeal. Rarity value worth something, but that's why I reckon low 40s not mid 30s.

If you want to lose 25k quite quickly, you could buy this car. I would suggest an evening with UV down at the Mayfair Casino with a couple of high class hookers and a kilo of colombian would be just as destructive to your finances though, and much more fun



scottster

627 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Is there some confusion here or have you actually seen this car Dom?

Wighty says a 911 GTS, not a 928 GTS, don't think, in fact convinced they didn't make 928s that late (stand to be corrected of course). Would be facinated to see a piccie if you have one?

Anyway, if it is a 928 I agree with Dom, if a 911 I'll have to see more.

ps: Always in favour of the night out with UV, I'm sure he has the contacts to set a grin on your face the size of Sydney Harbour bridge.

peteosborne

10,243 posts

277 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Any chance it could be a 993 Turbo S?
These had 450bhp didn't they? And that would explain the age and price too wouldn't it?

I saw a silver 993 Turbo S yesterday actually, a silver R reg one, in a petrol station in Sunningdale.
Gorgeous. never seen on in the flesh before that.

Pete
993 C4S

domster

8,431 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Shit, sorry, I'm a moron. I read it as 928 GTS, as I don't think they've ever made a 911 GTS.

Or have they? Answers on a postcard please.

If it's a GT3, then it's an OK price assuming it is RHD.

If it's a GT2 it's a bargain.

Sorry for the confusion.
Domster

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

273 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Does sound like a Turbo S - right age (or were they 97/98?), right power, right number in country.

Dunno if that is a good price tho?



>> Edited by hughjayteens on Thursday 12th September 12:40

theboymoon

2,699 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Sorry to piss on your party guys but the 993 turbo 's' didn't come along until 1998.
This now leaves us with the question of what is a 1996 'GTS?' If it is a 993 GT2 then it is, as someone said earlier in this thread, a bit of a bargain.
Moonie

Pete Cros

285 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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If you go to the Porsche dealers WEB site in Newcastle you will find that it is:

1996 P 911 Turbo 4 (993) Speed Yellow, Yellow Leather 21,000 miles etc etc, £65,000.

Easy really isnt it?

>> Edited by Pete Cros on Thursday 12th September 13:42

Pete Cros

285 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Dont you just love a smart alec.

P.S. I was curious to know what it was too, thats why I looked.

It ain't a GTS

www.porschecentres.co.uk/jct600/newcastle
at top of page click on 'centre appoved used cars'
then on the right of page, click on 'approved used cars'
go to bottom of page for a non GTS

>> Edited by Pete Cros on Thursday 12th September 13:55

theboymoon

2,699 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Another mystery solved by detective Cros!
Does anyone else think that yellow with yellow interior is, umm, dubious?!!
Moonie

>> Edited by theboymoon on Thursday 12th September 13:54

Pete Cros

285 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Yellow Leather appears on the brief advert. Clicking on 'info', returns Leather Trim, i.e. no mention of yellow. Wonder if JCT have got it wrong! Anyway, I can't afford the car, so I don't have to worry about it.

Oops! I forgot, back to the original question, ''is it a good price'' ?????????

>> Edited by Pete Cros on Thursday 12th September 14:06

domster

8,431 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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OK, I still think it is overpriced. I would say it was worth high 40s maximum. Especially with a ghastly yellow leather interior. Maybe 50 on the head considering its low miles and high spec engine.

People prefer the Turbo 4 in metallics or dark solids.

Thanks to Pete for sorting out what it actually was I did find reference to the 911 GTS, which was basically what the track 911s were sometimes known as - ie the racing GT2s were sometimes called GTS-2s, presumably so as not to mistake them with the road going homologation variants. Not a common model designation, though, and probably not an official one.

Pete Cros

285 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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This hasn't got anything to do with the 911 (GTS). Just filling up space on this thread.

I have been looking at what appears to be a standard 911 turbo of 1985 vintage. Its not for sale you understand, its in for repair. Its a LHD German registered with the reg ending in 930. Anyway, the only obvious mods are a roll cage and a really big gauge on top of the engine. No big/wild wings. The car is very tatty, very worn seats and interior. The big giveaway that is is something special is the belts have RUF imprinetd on them. On asking about the car, the reply is along the lines of:
Ah!, its the RUF protype, its the actual car that did Nuremburg at 200mph.

The repair required - its got a blown turbo. Car is in Bob Watsons

Dazren

22,612 posts

266 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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This looks a very specialist vehicle.

Started off as a standard 993 T4. With some very expensive factory options:

Factory 450 power upgrade.(Like Turbo S and high spec GT2s)
Guessing 993 GT2 spoiler kit.
Air intakes in front of rear wheels.
Roll cage.

It wouldn't surpise me if the above options and the carbon bits added £30k to the vehicle list price. Ie the original owner would have paid about £127,500 for the vehicle.

I would guess JCT took it in PX, it's too specialist a vehicle to buy in throught he trade to retail on. Agree with Dom, £65k is too much, I would expect to see this vehicle on the forecourt at approx £58k.

DAZ

steve-p

1,448 posts

287 months

Thursday 12th September 2002
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Dont you just love a smart alec.


Reminds me of a bit in The Sweeney yesterday:

Regan: Nobody likes a smart arse....
Villain: ...especially another one.

WIGHTY

Original Poster:

57 posts

266 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Sorry I have not got back to everyone, but the car is badged up with GTS.

Dazren

22,612 posts

266 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Sorry I have not got back to everyone, but the car is badged up with GTS.




You could put a Carrera 4 badge on a Carrera 2. Though it doesn't give the car 4WD.

I together with most of the officianados on this board have not heard of a 993 GTS, so unless Porsche GB advise you otherwise assume it is the owner trying to differentiate his vehicle from the "masses".

cheers

DAZ

I think this car may have been for sell 18/24 months ago, it's a memorable spec, either Topmarques or 911 & PW.