Giulia Quadrifoglio depreciation predictions.
Giulia Quadrifoglio depreciation predictions.
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windymissile

Original Poster:

287 posts

149 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Evenin' ladies and gents.

The good Alfa's were before my time and the newer stuff just never did it for me.
I've spent most of my driving career (20 years) in various powerful Ford's and most recently BMW's.
Now though, the Giulia Quadrifoglio has really got my eye.
I'm not in a position to buy one straight from a dealer due to a new baby and the associated Maternity pay implications.
What I'd like to know is, what are people's predictions on residuals? I know, with it being a new model, it's a bit of a stab in the dark.
But, what does the forum think a 12 month old car with about 8k on the clocks will be worth next spring? The only preferable option is the special Red paint.

Cheers.

WM

ecain63

10,632 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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You'll likely not get a huge response to this on here as (rightly so) owners won't really want to predict their losses.

As high a price as possible is my hope. The brand could do without people wishing the values away off the back of past experiences or simply generating a mood of negativity about values to bring them down to their level. I'm not saying you are in this group but I'm sure if you were in ownership right now you'd be keen to keep the car in a high demand bracket. It's first owner perks at the end of the day but if you want a big discount off a nearly new car then maybe BMW can help?

windymissile

Original Poster:

287 posts

149 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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I want high residuals.
I'm buying one and I want it to be worth something when I want to change.

WM

ecain63

10,632 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Excellent, welcome to the brand wink

In that case I'd hope a year old car with low miles will still fetch up to £55k given the price hikes on new cars. Spec will obviously dictate but the Quad is quite a bit more money to order now than they were before xmas. This works well for us early investors. On the spec front, they come with a very healthy setup so I wouldn't be looking to spend any more on the HK audio or other interior luxuries. The standard stuff is just as nice and just as capable.

smarty156

372 posts

106 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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I would definitely spec the electric seat pack. Spoke to someone on Saturday that didn't and he's now thinking he should have.
Other than that, there's nothing extra you really need other than paint, calipers colour and wheel options to suit your taste.
Actually, the optional carbon/alcantara steering wheel is a nice option.
If I were ever to buy another the electric seats and the option steering wheel would be my must haves.

windymissile

Original Poster:

287 posts

149 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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ecain63 said:
Excellent, welcome to the brand wink

In that case I'd hope a year old car with low miles will still fetch up to £55k given the price hikes on new cars. Spec will obviously dictate but the Quad is quite a bit more money to order now than they were before xmas. This works well for us early investors. On the spec front, they come with a very healthy setup so I wouldn't be looking to spend any more on the HK audio or other interior luxuries. The standard stuff is just as nice and just as capable.
Ha. Thanks.

I'm not a huge fan of fancy stereos and anything will be an upgrade compared to the stock system in my BMW at the moment.

Do you know if the numbers of Quads available are being limited or is it an open run?

WM

hman

7,497 posts

214 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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I predict a steady decline for a year to 18 months after launch - converting to a horrific death spiral as the cars near the end of their warranty period.

Same for any car - but with an Alfa, and their reported failures already, I dont think they will be immune to the death spiral at all.

windymissile

Original Poster:

287 posts

149 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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hman said:
I predict a steady decline for a year to 18 months after launch - converting to a horrific death spiral as the cars near the end of their warranty period.

Same for any car - but with an Alfa, and their reported failures already, I dont think they will be immune to the death spiral at all.
What are the reported failures?
I have not had a real in-depth investigation yet but I haven't seen much.

WM

ecain63

10,632 posts

195 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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The failures are hugely over-hyped. Everyone wants them to fail. 99% of issues so far have been software. Easy fix.

Look at any of the big brands and you'll see the same or worse. Just a fact of machine and electronics in human hands.

MrBarry123

6,076 posts

141 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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I think they'll do slightly better than the F80 M3 whilst in warranty due to how (comparatively) rare they are and how special the drivetrain is perceived* to be.

*I'm sure the perceptions are true.

BlackPorker

394 posts

195 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Here's one that's nearly a year old with 5k miles:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Should give you an idea.

rxe

6,700 posts

123 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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As a long term Alfisti....i'd clearly like one for buttons in a few years ... but....

- They haven't sold many Giulias, so there won't be that many kicking around second hand.

It's the first Alfa in quite some time that appears to be very good "out of the box". Most Alfas can be made good by enthusiastic owners, but that tends to be much later in life.

On the bad side:

- It's a modern high performance car, it's likely to throw stupendous bills later in life.

- They haven't sold many - spares support will be bloody awful and they'll stop making bits for it after 10 years. The aftermarket probably won't develop as there aren't enough.

I suspect it will hold its value as well as anything else in the warranty period, and then slide pretty steeply after that.

ecain63

10,632 posts

195 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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BlackPorker said:
Here's one that's nearly a year old with 5k miles:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Should give you an idea.
Ex dealer demo by the looks of it

Little Lofty

3,751 posts

171 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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The cheapest I've seen so far was £52k, it started at around £58k and got reduced down over 3 or 4 months and eventually disappeared from AT. The trade price of the early cars is mid to high £40k's. I would imagine the early cars sale prices will drop to just under £50k in the new year.

anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Some first hand experience.

I paid £60k for mine

Traded it after 3 months to another brand’s dealer for £52,500. It then sold at £56 I believe.

Was offered between 50 and 52 from several non Alfa franchises

Worst offers were from Alfa franchises although two of four were in the 50-52 range. One said £38k !!


_Superleggera_

2,014 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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They will be under 50K in the new year.

I predict they will be under the 4C prices in the next 12-18 months.

Rosanne

420 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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[quote=smarty156]I would definitely spec the electric seat pack. Spoke to someone on Saturday that didn't and he's now thinking he should have.
Other than that, there's nothing extra you really need other than paint, calipers colour and wheel options to suit your taste.
Actually, the optional carbon/alcantara steering wheel is a nice option.
If I were ever to buy another the electric seats and the option steering wheel would be my must haves.[/quote

I intend to buy a used one early in the New Year. Is the alternative to the electric seat pack one with no electrics at all ? Similarly, what makes the steering wheel option different

smarty156

372 posts

106 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Rosanne]marty156 said:
I would definitely spec the electric seat pack. Spoke to someone on Saturday that didn't and he's now thinking he should have.
Other than that, there's nothing extra you really need other than paint, calipers colour and wheel options to suit your taste.
Actually, the optional carbon/alcantara steering wheel is a nice option.
If I were ever to buy another the electric seats and the option steering wheel would be my must haves.[/quote

I intend to buy a used one early in the New Year. Is the alternative to the electric seat pack one with no electrics at all ? Similarly, what makes the steering wheel option different
Yes standard seats are manual adjustment (side bolsters I think may still be electrically adjustable for tightness). The electric seats pack adds full electric adjustment for driver and passenger plus 3 memory settings on the drivers seat plus heated front seats plus heated steering wheel. Definitely worth it.

Standard steering wheel is leather. Upgraded wheel is alcantara with carbon fibre inserts at the bottom.

ecain63

10,632 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Standard, non-electric seats are also awesome. I wouldn't class the electric pack as essential. I had spec'd electric seats but due to a cock up the car came with manuals. They are the best seats I've had to date. I've come from a string of AMGs, //M and RS models and all have had electrics. Just my 2p

MegaCat

191 posts

160 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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7,000 miles in and the car has been faultless - except for an oversensitive alarm, now adjusted. The car is bound to take some time to get recognised as a sound alternative to the E63/M3-4/RS5 pack, but it is so much better and I think enough people will realise this - I still get loads of positive comments from people and remain massively chuffed that I have one!