Any Employment law experts on here ???

Any Employment law experts on here ???

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mdh

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808 posts

270 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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I thought that if you work 9-5:30 , 5 days a week you are entitled to an hours lunch and two fifteen minute breaks a day.

Is this correct ? If not , what are you legally entitled to ??
Can anyone shed any light on this ??

>>> Edited by mdh on Wednesday 4th September 14:17

NDT

1,764 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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minimum half hour break in every six hours at work.

Not sure about the other 2 breaks though.

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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There is a helpline you can ring that tells you all you need to know. Can't find the number though, sorry. The person in charge of health and safety at your work (if there is such a person) would probably know though.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

289 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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Dont forget that if you are working on a computer then you are supposed to stop every 20 minutes and get away from your desk every 40.

Plus I always thought it was 45 minutes for lunch and two breaks of 15 minutes during the day. But this has to be flexible as you need to go to the loo and smoke breaks etc. They cannot prevent you or stop you from doing either at any time (as long as it doesnt prevent you from doing your job - like a Nurse or Fireman for example).

Cheers,

Paul

P.S. Whats the problem?

mel

10,168 posts

281 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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minimum half hour break in every six hours at work.

Not sure about the other 2 breaks though.



I thought it was every 5 hours????

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

290 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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www.dti.gov.uk/er/work_time_regs/

"a right to an in-work rest break if the working day is longer than six hours"

Edit: In fact, even better, www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1998/19981833.htm#12

"(1) Where an adult worker's daily working time is more than six hours, he is entitled to a rest break."

"Subject to the provisions of any applicable collective agreement or workforce agreement, the rest break provided for in paragraph (1) is an uninterrupted period of not less than 20 minutes, and the worker is entitled to spend it away from his workstation if he has one."

So looks like lunch is out, statutory break is one break of 20 mins in the day.

Back to standing on your heads, lads...

>> Edited by Size Nine Elm on Wednesday 4th September 14:37

davidd

6,522 posts

290 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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Just got this from our expert (we sublease an office to a very good HR person if anyone near Cambridge needs anyone give me a shout and I'll pass er details on..).

Anyway plug over

Where an employee works more than six hours, at least a 20 minute rest break must be provided (young workers are entitled to a 30 minute rest break if they work more than 4.5 hours) - Working Time Directive

There are no specific periods for rest breaks over and above the 20 mins although there are some specific exceptions such as: shop staff who work for a period including 11.30 - 14.30 must have a break of 45 mins in that time HGV drivers must have breaks totalling at least 45 minutes in every period of 4.5 hours continuous driving.

Obviously DSE (VDU to you & me) should be able to take regular breaks away from screen for health & safety reasons but nothing laid down specifically

In all other workplaces, breaks are a matter of local agreement & should be specificied in the terms & cond of employment.

D.

granville

18,764 posts

267 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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Health & Safety = Jobsworthism & Red Tape Fascism.

If ever there was something with which to completely kill any vague, flickering ember of entrepenuerialist spirit in Britain it's this crap.

Can you imagine the Industrial Revolution ever beginning it's first rotation, with some whining little army of toe rag clipboardistas parading around, tapping the boy Brunel on the shoulder and muttering, "Ooo, you don't wanna build that bridge there, somebody might break a finger nail?"

Bleedin' pitiful shower to a man.

The French, God bless 'em, don't even have one. An HSE, that is. I despise these tossers with a vengeance.

mdh

Original Poster:

808 posts

270 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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Thanks for the help

JohnL

1,763 posts

271 months

Wednesday 4th September 2002
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Health & Safety = Jobsworthism & Red Tape Fascism.

If ever there was something with which to completely kill any vague, flickering ember of entrepenuerialist spirit in Britain it's this crap.

Can you imagine the Industrial Revolution ever beginning it's first rotation, with some whining little army of toe rag clipboardistas parading around, tapping the boy Brunel on the shoulder and muttering, "Ooo, you don't wanna build that bridge there, somebody might break a finger nail?"

Bleedin' pitiful shower to a man.

The French, God bless 'em, don't even have one. An HSE, that is. I despise these tossers with a vengeance.



's a little harsh Derestrictor. There are plenty of cases where an employer simply doesn't give a flying f**k about his employees. And it's easy to say get another job; not always so easy to actually do.

granville

18,764 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th September 2002
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's a little harsh Derestrictor. There are plenty of cases where an employer simply doesn't give a flying f**k about his employees. And it's easy to say get another job; not always so easy to actually do.



Fair dinkum, John, if we're talking about industrial arena, etc.

But the problem I have had with them is their 'little Napolean' attitude which seems to have been de rigeur for their employment. Never have I met such a dour collection of 'rules is rules' acolytes for whom the detection of an errant chair accidentally strewn in a passageway within a non-idustrial establishment constitues an act of almost Holy Inquisitorial transgression.

Sorry but I just hate the breed.

Other groups I would commend to the pit of Saarlaccian
digestion include:

Traffic wardens, Tax inspectors (all forms), Transport 2000, The Commission for Racial Equality, the DTI and for special condsideration as an individual, the Dutchman who invented the GATSO camera. Come to think of it, any company involved in the manufacture of speed detection/restrictive equipment and I include speed hump/traffic filter contractors in this group.

Feel free to continue the list. More sensible policies and all that.