Any sparkies luring around ...
Any sparkies luring around ...
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dugless

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317 posts

262 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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An electric cooker... , there always wired straight to the mains in the kitchen with its own power switch/socket.

Is it possible to wire a cooker to a normal plug with a 13 amp fuse etc. ? I'm puting a cooker in my garage for heating up items for work related issues and I'm not allowed to use our 'good' cooker in the kitchen.

help,before I blow the house up.

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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I'm not a sparky but I don't think 13A would be man enough for a cooker.

miniman

30,000 posts

291 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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My cooker was supplied with a 13A plug. It's a Baumatic range cooker (only the oven is electric). The gas fitter who installed it mentioned that there is some point at which they can no longer use a standard plug and it must be hard wired into the 30A(?) circuit - can't remember exactly what the criteria are.

cinque

833 posts

311 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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IIRC should really have it wired into a separate spur with 30a rating shouldnt cost much to link it up by a qualified spark (less than £60-70 im guessing)

z1000

649 posts

267 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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Modern fan assisted ovens draw less power,and can be run straight off the ring main. (mind you I'm not a sparks.........)

chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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z1000 said:
Modern fan assisted ovens draw less power,and can be run straight off the ring main. (mind you I'm not a sparks.........)


Very true. I recently had an electrician in the other day as I found our Stoves Electic Oven/Grill gas hob is wired on to the ring main via a 13amp plug. I thought it should have its own spur.

Turns out I was wrong, and some modern cookers can run off a 13amp plug. You need to look at the instruction book!

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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I stand corrected

wolves_wanderer

12,952 posts

266 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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Just for the oven you should be OK, the problem comes if you have electric hobs being used as well.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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If the fuse keeps blowing you can make a higher rated one buy cutting an inch out of copper brake line and using that

I think it's rated at about 200amps

In the interests of safety, it's best to use it from someone elses car

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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Some cookers can, some cant. Those that cant cook food faster and get up to temperature faster. If your cooker came new with a plug, it can run from it. If you didnt get it new check the current/wattage taring of the cooker to see if some muppet added the plug later

Sparks

1,217 posts

308 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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Most (if not all) modern standrad size fan ovens are 13amp. Certainly if they are built in with no/gas hob.
The extra current is needed for the electric rings (i.e old all electric cookers) or for non fan ovens.

When I got my kitchen gutted, I moved the (built in)oven into a reception room, and plugged it into a standard ring socket.

Best way is to check the rating of the oven (should be on the back) if it is more than 3120W (3.1kW) you will need a better cable run, and a dedicated trip from the supply.

Sparks, suposed electronic and electrical engineer, but close enough



>> Edited by Sparks on Thursday 31st March 12:24

fly boy

1,282 posts

270 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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Most cooker/ hob combos are rated at around 7kw/ 23A, which is why they are wired on a individual supply using 6mm cable. Standard ring main is 2.5mm.
Modern ovens are rated around 3kw which would be fine for a 13A ring main.

So it depends if you mean cooker or oven?

>> Edited by fly boy on Thursday 31st March 13:09

dugless

Original Poster:

317 posts

262 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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Sparks said:
Most (if not all) modern standrad size fan ovens are 13amp. Certainly if they are built in with no/gas hob.
The extra current is needed for the electric rings (i.e old all electric cookers) or for non fan ovens.

When I got my kitchen gutted, I moved the (built in)oven into a reception room, and plugged it into a standard ring socket.

Best way is to check the rating of the oven (should be on the back) if it is more than 3120W (3.1kW) you will need a better cable run, and a dedicated trip from the supply.

Sparks, suposed electronic and electrical engineer, but close enough



>> Edited by Sparks on Thursday 31st March 12:24


Just checked the back of it,max load is 8.3 kw !!

the 4 rings will never,ever,be on..just the oven,if the worst comes to the worst,the 13amp fuse will blow ?,or the trip fuse in the house for the garage will trigger.. ?

or I could wire it up to a lampost

if there is a fuse,ultimately it will be safe,no ? .. I havent a clue..

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

270 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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The fan ovens draw less than 13A (2.5kw rings a bell).

It is the hob that takes the lion's share of the power - typically around 7kw.

So if it is only an oven you intend installing, you should be fine on 13A.

Incidentally, a gas hob is rated at more like 14kw, which is why they are so much more effective.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st March 2005
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dugless said:
Just checked the back of it,max load is 8.3 kw !!

the 4 rings will never,ever,be on..just the oven,if the worst comes to the worst,the 13amp fuse will blow ?,or the trip fuse in the house for the garage will trigger.. ?

or I could wire it up to a lampost

if there is a fuse,ultimately it will be safe,no ? .. I havent a clue..


13 amp fuses are notoriously inaccurate. It's entirely possible to damage a socket by overheating due to too much current being drawn without blowing the 13A fuse. OTOH it's easy to disconnect the rings so only the oven bit works. That will also save you from accidentally roasting things you put down on the hob

Edited for spelling


>> Edited by Pigeon on Thursday 31st March 15:15