Weekend Trackday Car
Discussion
I'm looking for a car to replace my current one as I no longer commute would like something that I can actually look forward to driving cone the weekend and also be practical enough for travelling across Europe and the occasional track day one per month.
My budget is 15-20k and I would prefer a car that would actually improve my driving on track, something I could learn from and that is not overly assisted and that would require a decent amount of skill to get the best from it.
I've considered an e46 and e92 m3, but neither appear to be ideal for trackdays as as the brakes for both being the weakest part of their standard setup.
I've also looked in the Renaultsport Megane range (250, 265 and 275) but apparently they are too competent at what they do and can be driven at their limits by the least experienced drivers.
Porsche 911 996?
An Accord Type-R seems like a decent bet, but is there a modern equivalent?
Looking for:
- Something comfortable
- Decent brakes that won't fade after 1-2 laps
- Great sounding engine
- Fwd or Rwd
- Room for 4 or 2 + 2
- won't depreciate like a brick
- Isn't a common sight.
My budget is 15-20k and I would prefer a car that would actually improve my driving on track, something I could learn from and that is not overly assisted and that would require a decent amount of skill to get the best from it.
I've considered an e46 and e92 m3, but neither appear to be ideal for trackdays as as the brakes for both being the weakest part of their standard setup.
I've also looked in the Renaultsport Megane range (250, 265 and 275) but apparently they are too competent at what they do and can be driven at their limits by the least experienced drivers.
Porsche 911 996?
An Accord Type-R seems like a decent bet, but is there a modern equivalent?
Looking for:
- Something comfortable
- Decent brakes that won't fade after 1-2 laps
- Great sounding engine
- Fwd or Rwd
- Room for 4 or 2 + 2
- won't depreciate like a brick
- Isn't a common sight.
Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ?
-Low power but very well handling car with massive potential for upgrades as you improve as a driver.
-2+2 layout with a decent sized boot,
-Its lightweight compared to most hot hatches so tyres/brakes will be cheap and effective.
-Can't speak about the comfort as I have only ridden in one briefly... and it was in the back, but they are fairly well equiped.
-Values have remained fairly stable, they are even known to maintain value when track modified, not many vehicles do.
-Much more 'special' that a hot hatch or saloon, in my opinion at least.
-Boxer engines are a bit marmite but makes an 'interesting' noise
-Low power but very well handling car with massive potential for upgrades as you improve as a driver.
-2+2 layout with a decent sized boot,
-Its lightweight compared to most hot hatches so tyres/brakes will be cheap and effective.
-Can't speak about the comfort as I have only ridden in one briefly... and it was in the back, but they are fairly well equiped.
-Values have remained fairly stable, they are even known to maintain value when track modified, not many vehicles do.
-Much more 'special' that a hot hatch or saloon, in my opinion at least.
-Boxer engines are a bit marmite but makes an 'interesting' noise
This:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
plus these
http://www.amber-performance.co.uk/product.php?xPr...
Sorts out the braking problem.
Also has the advantage of zero depreciation if you keep the mileage to a sensible level.
ETA - also budget for a set of track wheels and tyres
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
plus these
http://www.amber-performance.co.uk/product.php?xPr...
Sorts out the braking problem.
Also has the advantage of zero depreciation if you keep the mileage to a sensible level.
ETA - also budget for a set of track wheels and tyres
Edited by GreatGranny on Tuesday 18th April 08:54
The Megane is not an easy car to reach the limits of you have to work at it the same as any car.
Here's a thread of someone who tracks one:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The BMW will cost more to track because it was a more expensive car to start with.
Here's a thread of someone who tracks one:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The BMW will cost more to track because it was a more expensive car to start with.
Thank you for that link, it was very informative!
I've looked into the RS 250 and 265 some more and they seen like a lot of car for the money.
I think another poster got it right with the e90 being a more expensive car and would be heavier on consumables, the brakes adding a further 4-5k for 6 pots on the fronts and 4 pots on the rear.
Same can be said for the e46, but I know the M3 CS offers a better brake setup than the standard M3 as well as a quicker rack, but the cost of a decent CS with a manual gearbox is both rare and expensive for what you get over the standard M3.
I've looked into the RS 250 and 265 some more and they seen like a lot of car for the money.
I think another poster got it right with the e90 being a more expensive car and would be heavier on consumables, the brakes adding a further 4-5k for 6 pots on the fronts and 4 pots on the rear.
Same can be said for the e46, but I know the M3 CS offers a better brake setup than the standard M3 as well as a quicker rack, but the cost of a decent CS with a manual gearbox is both rare and expensive for what you get over the standard M3.
ZX10R NIN said:
The Megane is not an easy car to reach the limits of you have to work at it the same as any car.
Here's a thread of someone who tracks one:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The BMW will cost more to track because it was a more expensive car to start with.
Here's a thread of someone who tracks one:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The BMW will cost more to track because it was a more expensive car to start with.
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