Golf R replacement?
Golf R replacement?
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tankplanker

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2,479 posts

295 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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So my Golf R was stolen last night, broke in and pinched the keys while we slept. Police think it was stolen to order as a bunch of performance VWs stolen same night so I'm not expecting it back.

Obviously now i need a replacement, i want something that is about as fast as the Golf, prefer two seater this time, but most importantly it should be even more low key that the Golf. One of the reasons i didn't go for the Focus RS was it looked to be a thief magnet. So hot hatches are out for me now.

The car will be my daily, so prefer new or nearly new, petrol, reliable and within £40k. Ideally should be more involving to drive than the golf and nothing front wheel drive.

Current front runner is a BRZ with an Avo turbo kit.

mcg_

1,454 posts

108 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Clubsport S?

(I know its fwd)

94OD

1,130 posts

138 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Sorry to hear about the theft - unfortunately it seems an all too regular occurrence. There's at least a thread per week on VWROC with the same story.

I'm currently in a Golf 6 R - I'm itching for a 981 Cayman S but unfortunately can't see that happening anytime soon. They've started dropping below £40k, too.

Best of luck with the insurance; hope it's a relatively painless process.

Forgot to mention, TTRS?

A500leroy

6,917 posts

134 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Odd ball choice abarth/fiat 124 spider.

tankplanker

Original Poster:

2,479 posts

295 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Not interested in another hot Golf, they seem to be targeted by thieves at present.

I've already got a Mazda MX5 so not interested in a 124, but i would have been otherwise as they are great cars.

Cayman is a good shout, could get a decent one for my budget. Only thing that worries me is if they are a target for thieves as they are a desirable badge?

94OD

1,130 posts

138 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Anything 'fruity' is a target for thieves, but I guess what makes the S3/Golf R so attractive to thieves is that they're relatively understated.

As long as it's insured (including GAP) I wouldn't worry too much. You can only do so much.

Yipper

5,964 posts

106 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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There is an epidemic of such thefts up north.

Jimmy open the front or back door lock in 1min, find keys on a table or in a drawer in 1min, drive off with £5-30k of resellable parts via your favourite auction site in 1 more minute.

Surprised plod are not doing more to raise awareness about it and educate folks about how to avoid it (stronger locks, more internal locks, hide keys upstairs, get a noisy dog, etc.).

Some of the fast Seats, like a Cupra or Leon, are a good alternative and seem to be less nicked at the moment.

tankplanker

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2,479 posts

295 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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We were told by the Police not to hide the keys as the thieves will wake you up to get the keys.

I've replaced all the upvc handles and locks with stronger ones, but they will just drill them regardless if they decide to break in.

I'm fitting CCTV and rigging up the lighting to the CCTV so that might help.

At the moment I'm still leaning towards a BRZ and turboing it, the Porsche name puts me off a little due to other people's badge snobbery.

ZX10R NIN

29,311 posts

141 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Go for the BRZ with the turbo conversion it'll be great fun.

JeS10

375 posts

182 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Golf Rs have been stolen like this from day one. However, I don't think the Leons would be? Not sure the Eastern European/Baltic countries that these cars end up in have much of an appetite for SEATs?

Deerfoot

5,058 posts

200 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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370Z ?

BlueHave

4,706 posts

124 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Seems to be quite a lot of R being taken, heard of two last week.

What about an Audi S3 Saloon?

or if it must be a two seater what about one of those Golf GTI Clubsport S with no back seats.

tankplanker

Original Poster:

2,479 posts

295 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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No hot hatches for me for a while now regardless of make.

At the follow up visit from the police this afternoon they told me that last month it was the Focus RS they were after as a whole bunch were stolen.

I'm booking in for a test drive of the 370z nismo, can't help feeling it's more of a GT than i want but we'll see.

Short list is BRZ, 370z nismo, also debating an old Z4M and banking the cash...

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

162 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Try the Peugeot 308 GTI 270, its available with a nice discount and gives better overall performance than an R wink

diddles

446 posts

215 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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BlueHave said:
Seems to be quite a lot of R being taken, heard of two last week.

What about an Audi S3 Saloon?

or if it must be a two seater what about one of those Golf GTI Clubsport S with no back seats.
The Audi S3 is one of the most, if not the most stolen car in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jun/25/hi-t...

I though think the Clubsport S is also going to attract a lot of attention from the wrong type of people.

Maybe a SEAT Leon Cupra 300 is the answer? They look fairly low key.

AJB88

14,425 posts

187 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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mcg_ said:
Clubsport S?

(I know its fwd)
If a Golf R is a thief magnet... this will be the grandaddy of them,

ChrisR99

453 posts

127 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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tonyb1968 said:
Try the Peugeot 308 GTI 270, its available with a nice discount and gives better overall performance than an R wink
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Yipper

5,964 posts

106 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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tankplanker said:
We were told by the Police not to hide the keys as the thieves will wake you up to get the keys.

I've replaced all the upvc handles and locks with stronger ones, but they will just drill them regardless if they decide to break in.

I'm fitting CCTV and rigging up the lighting to the CCTV so that might help.

At the moment I'm still leaning towards a BRZ and turboing it, the Porsche name puts me off a little due to other people's badge snobbery.
The trick is to fit internal locks and internal alarms. Make sure the baddies have to break at least 3 locks or more to get upstairs and into your bedroom(s). A very effective deterrent. Home attacks to the person are very rare in the UK, and blocking properly the inside doors makes such attacks almost impossible.

For example, know someone who owns a medium-sized indy car dealership. He is well-known locally. He always has a big Audi or some-such from work parked on his home-driveway. A juicy target. He got burgled 3 times in 18 months (once when asleep and twice when away) and lost 4 cars after they swiped the keys from the kitchen table... He then fitted stronger locks on the outside doors, and, critically, fitted strong locks on the inside doors with motion-sensor alarms in each room... He got burgled again (car keys were upstairs), but they were unable / unwilling to get through the locked kitchen, locked living room, and locked hallway, and eventually gave up... He has not been burgled again for the past ~6 years.

Of course, you have to have an escape plan for fires, make sure fire alarms work, and make sure burglars cannot get a ladder to your upstair-windows.

Pulse00

544 posts

115 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Yipper said:
The trick is to fit internal locks and internal alarms. Make sure the baddies have to break at least 3 locks or more to get upstairs and into your bedroom(s). A very effective deterrent. Home attacks to the person are very rare in the UK, and blocking properly the inside doors makes such attacks almost impossible.

For example, know someone who owns a medium-sized indy car dealership. He is well-known locally. He always has a big Audi or some-such from work parked on his home-driveway. A juicy target. He got burgled 3 times in 18 months (once when asleep and twice when away) and lost 4 cars after they swiped the keys from the kitchen table... He then fitted stronger locks on the outside doors, and, critically, fitted strong locks on the inside doors with motion-sensor alarms in each room... He got burgled again (car keys were upstairs), but they were unable / unwilling to get through the locked kitchen, locked living room, and locked hallway, and eventually gave up... He has not been burgled again for the past ~6 years.

Of course, you have to have an escape plan for fires, make sure fire alarms work, and make sure burglars cannot get a ladder to your upstair-windows.
Or just move house. If you find yourself needing to lock all your internal doors every night you're in a pretty sorry state.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

123 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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In all honesty a 640D or something mundane and not worth stealing