Tories show their true colours.
Tories show their true colours.
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c c

Original Poster:

8,048 posts

268 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Deputy Conservative Chairman Howard Flight had to resign for telling the truth.


Story

scared but happy

24,147 posts

258 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Oh dear, Labour happy day...... again
The Tories do it everytime "vote for us Labour are krap" and then

I think the Gun, foot analogy comes into play again.

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Newsflash: Politician Lies

What a surprise

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Whats wrong with cuts?

screaming NL politician said:
OMG TORIES ARE GOING TO CUT PUBLIC SERVICES


Parrots up and down the land said:
OMG THEY'RE ANY USE ANYWAY?


Its not as if I appreciate being taxed to the hilt. I don't suppose anybody else does, either.

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

261 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Im just sick of all the bullshit from all sides. I was gonna vote Tory but why bother? All theyll do is the same as the other.
No truth, no honesty no loyalty to the electorate, and no ferking honour.
Theyre all a shower of bastards who'll receive the contempt they deserve when they come a canvassing for votes, assuming they can even be bothered to speak to the likes of us "filth".

Stupid, stupid and stupid.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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the answer to crap govt is simple just vote the bastards out every 4/5 years. that way they never get enough time to feck things up. and the civil servants run things like they always have !!!!


anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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I'm dissapointed.

I want much much bigger cuts in public expenditure. What the tories propose is a drop in the ocean. Lets start with the civil service. Halve it and then abolish the index linked publicly funded pensions for all public servants. Then abolish district councils, clamp down on social security benefit fraud and leave the EU. Thats about £100 billion, enough to cut taxes, abolish the climate change levy, employers N.I, business rates. A start anyway.

Same old tories. Not aggressive enough.

Scooby_snax

1,279 posts

283 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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unrepentant said:
I'm dissapointed.

I want much much bigger cuts in public expenditure. What the tories propose is a drop in the ocean. Lets start with the civil service. Halve it and then abolish the index linked publicly funded pensions for all public servants. Then abolish district councils, clamp down on social security benefit fraud and leave the EU. Thats about £100 billion, enough to cut taxes, abolish the climate change levy, employers N.I, business rates. A start anyway.

Same old tories. Not aggressive enough.


and.....why not abolish child benefit...if you cannot afford one dont have it....

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Neither party are doing it for me this year...getting pi$$ed off with them both. No one has actually come up with anything to sell themselves.

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

297 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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CC, you clearly know nothing at all about party politics. A quick lesson for you.

Conservatives, by instinct, wish to tax less, provide more personal choice and freedom and spend less on supporting freeloaders and bottom feeders. Some Conservatives have stronger views on this than others.

Howard Flight feels strongly about this, but his views are out of step with the Conservative leadership. For publicly making this known he has been summarily dealt with.

Labour, by instinct, wish to tax more, restrict personal choice and freedom and spend more on freeloaders and bottom feeders. Some Labourites have stronger views on this than others.

The difference is that Labour MPs are too dishonest to make their true feelings known and would rather bastardise their deepest held principles to guarantee a seat in the Commons. No Labour MP is ever kicked out, no matter if they divorce their wives by text message/take money from dodgy foreign businessmen/put nude pictures of themselves on gay websites/lie about creating a war/lie about the mysterious death of civil servants/call for the "deserved" execution of our own troops.


>> Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Friday 25th March 16:41

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Conservatives, by instinct, wish to tax less, provide more personal choice and freedom and spend less on supporting freeloaders and bottom feeders. Some Conservatives have stronger views on this than others.

Labour, by instinct, wish to tax more, restrict personal choice and freedom and spend more on freeloaders and bottom feeders. Some Labourites have stronger views on this than others.



A tad misleading and based on an automatic assumption that Tory = Good, Labour = Bad. All parties have good and bad policies. I remind people that it was the Conservatives that brought in the Criminal Justice Bill, which, as far as I recall, was designed to restrict personal freedoms.

No doubt I'm going to get flamed for daring to have an opinion which differs from someone else's on this subject.

>> Edited by birdbrain on Friday 25th March 16:48

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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And the Tory abortion proposals...reducing freedom there.

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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anonymous said:
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agent006

12,058 posts

293 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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anonymous said:
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There are more than two y'know.

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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talking in terms of the main runners. It will be one of them that gets in. All the smaller parties don't have a chance on election so fight for seats.

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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It seems to me that many people on PH would like a Government which has the kind of powers that no rational person should wish a Government to have, basically along the lines of rounding up everyone they consider to be the "lower" classes and put them in concentration camps.




>> Edited by birdbrain on Friday 25th March 16:58

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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birdbrain said:
It seems to me that many people on PH would like a Government which has the kind of powers that no rational person should wish a Government to have, basically along the lines of rounding up everyone they consider to be the "lower" classes and put them in concentration camps.




And the problem with this is?

c c

Original Poster:

8,048 posts

268 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
CC, you clearly know nothing at all about party politics. A quick lesson for you.


I don’t need any lessons in party politics thank you.

>> Edited by c c on Friday 25th March 17:06

8Pack

5,182 posts

269 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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And the Tories idea of freedom of choice is: Like kicking your dog through the door and shouting, "There you go Rover, I've set you free! Fend for yourself!"

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

261 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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Vote lefties, vote righties, vote who the hell....The only way to win THIS game is NOT to play.

Screw the lot of em, they can go to hell...i just want out of it all.