Texas Refinery goes Boom!, up goes Fuel prices...
Texas Refinery goes Boom!, up goes Fuel prices...
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Dr Strangelove

Original Poster:

419 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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and if this is not a genuine accident, it won't stop until we can't afford it anymore...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4377519.stm


Judith Mantell, 62, told the Houston Chronicle that the blast lifted her vehicle off the ground at her home five miles (8km) away.


towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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No Accident. Dubya heard that they had found oil in Texas - so he bombed it! Lucky he didn`t go newkiller.

FourWheelDrift

92,238 posts

313 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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BBC said:

That figure is approximately 3% of the US' domestic oil supply


God forbid US petrol prices having to go up to cover that, they'll be riots if they have to pay an extra 2cents a gallon.

funkihamsta

1,261 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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..."US gasoline prices jumped as word hit the financial markets, reaching $1.60 per gallon (23p per litre). "

popov123

4,084 posts

264 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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funkihamsta said:
..."US gasoline prices jumped as word hit the financial markets, reaching $1.60 per gallon (23p per litre). "



My heart bleeds (Dom reels from putting £40's worth of super unleaded just to top up from half tank indicator )

ErnestM

11,621 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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Yes pump prices per gallon have finally surpassed bottled water - but just...


ErnestM

Trooper2

6,676 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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towman said:
No Accident. Dubya heard that they had found oil in Texas - so he bombed it! Lucky he didn`t go newkiller.





Nah, Dubya wouldn't bomb his home state unless there was a family "feudin'" with his.

funkihamsta

1,261 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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ErnestM said:
Yes pump prices per gallon have finally surpassed bottled water - but just...


ErnestM


Hmm, bottled water costs about twice that here. Guess we get ripped every which way.

JMGS4

8,922 posts

299 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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Another case of (deliberate?) friendly fire??? It was a BP plant after all......not an Exxon or whatever... one that Dubya does not control?!? Oh they have had safety problems before.... but 30% of BPs production in the US.... smells rather suspicious.....
Cynical....Moi?

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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Dr Strangelove said:
and if this is not a genuine accident, it won't stop until we can't afford it anymore...

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4377519.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4377519.stm</a>


Judith Mantell, 62, told the Houston Chronicle that the blast lifted her vehicle off the ground at her home five miles (8km) away.




Indications are that it WAS an accident.

The plant was recently heavily fined for a poor safety record.. In fact two people recently died there in an incident involving boiling water.

A tragedy by all accounts, but unlikely to be terrorism.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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Definately NOT terrorism.

Ruled out this morning apparently.

Unknown cause at the moment but they have ruled out the terrorism angle.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

294 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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Plotloss said:
Definately NOT terrorism.

Ruled out this morning apparently.

Unknown cause at the moment but they have ruled out the terrorism angle.


If they dont know what it was, how can they rule out it being deliverately caused?

Sounds like a political statement with no factual backing at the moment...

simpo two

92,674 posts

294 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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TheLemming said:
If they dont know what it was, how can they rule out it being deliverately caused?

Interesting logic, but you could have, say, 10 causes of which for various reasons you can rule out 3. So you know what it wasn't, but you still don't know what it was, IYKWIM.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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TheLemming said:

Plotloss said:
Definately NOT terrorism.

Ruled out this morning apparently.

Unknown cause at the moment but they have ruled out the terrorism angle.



If they dont know what it was, how can they rule out it being deliverately caused?

Sounds like a political statement with no factual backing at the moment...


Well the FBI and Homeland Security were present and given the Bush bases his actions on fear he has nothing to gain by saying it wasnt terrorism...

john75

5,303 posts

276 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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wonder what the short and long term ecomonic effects will be I heard someone on 5 Live saying they might be taking Petrol out of the UK support supply in the USA during there driving season.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

277 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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The Houston Chronicle said:

Judith Mantell, 62, told the Houston Chronicle that the blast lifted her vehicle off the ground at her home five miles (8km) away.
So even if it obvious to the most brain dead cretin that this statement is in fact complete and utter cobblers, the Houston Chronicle still saw fit to print it. They arent twinned with the Daily Mail by any chance?

A blast that could lift a car off the ground at five miles would make a major nuclear detonation look like a firecracker.

funkihamsta

1,261 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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simpo two said:

TheLemming said:
If they dont know what it was, how can they rule out it being deliverately caused?


Interesting logic, but you could have, say, 10 causes of which for various reasons you can rule out 3. So you know what it wasn't, but you still don't know what it was, IYKWIM.


I understand the gist of the point you are making but l do not think you can apply it here. There is no evidence providing a confirmed negative. For example you could say "We know Myra Hindley didnt do it because she is in jail 6000miles away".

I doubt there is ANY evidence that proves it WASN'T deliberate (terrorism/espionage etc) when they don't know what caused it. In fact the lack of info points to it being outside normal accident parameters..i.e deliberate.