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Slickhillsy said:
Simple question chaps...
Is it possible to retrof it PCCB to a 991 gt3 fitted with standard kit?
Yes its possible but BIG money!Is it possible to retrof it PCCB to a 991 gt3 fitted with standard kit?
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/GT3991PCCB.ht...
chrisABP said:
Slickhillsy said:
Simple question chaps...
Is it possible to retrof it PCCB to a 991 gt3 fitted with standard kit?
Yes its possible but BIG money!Is it possible to retrof it PCCB to a 991 gt3 fitted with standard kit?
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/GT3991PCCB.ht...
Okedoke - thanks for the help gents...
I'm hedging my 991 GT3 purchase position in case my name doesn't come out of the hat for the .2 Been on the look out for 'the spec' (PCCB / buckets / clubsport / white) but just cant find it. Many with everything but PCCB so was thinking of a retro fit. Not happening at those prices though.
The search continues... ;-)
Call JZM they might be able to help you replace the steel discs with ceramic. I had looked quite a bit into this whilst ordering my GT3 and finally went for steel. Didn't regret it one second btw. I still think ceramics is still for bragging rights but that debate has been done to death. From memory the Calipers are even the same. So a disc swap might do the trick but they would know best.
Otherwise you upgrade the steels with top quality elements and you will be fine and not financially ruined if you track heavily.
Otherwise you upgrade the steels with top quality elements and you will be fine and not financially ruined if you track heavily.
rosino said:
Call JZM they might be able to help you replace the steel discs with ceramic. I had looked quite a bit into this whilst ordering my GT3 and finally went for steel. Didn't regret it one second btw. I still think ceramics is still for bragging rights but that debate has been done to death. From memory the Calipers are even the same. So a disc swap might do the trick but they would know best.
Otherwise you upgrade the steels with top quality elements and you will be fine and not financially ruined if you track heavily.
Thanks sir, will look in to that. Not planning on doing many track days (some) in it, I had ceramics on my 997 GT3 and for me it's (apart from performance) a cosmetic thing as I love the look of them plus yellow calipers. Zero dust and long term road use durability are also big bonuses.Otherwise you upgrade the steels with top quality elements and you will be fine and not financially ruined if you track heavily.
Cheers.
Slickhillsy said:
Thanks sir, will look in to that. Not planning on doing many track days (some) in it, I had ceramics on my 997 GT3 and for me it's (apart from performance) a cosmetic thing as I love the look of them plus yellow calipers. Zero dust and long term road use durability are also big bonuses.
Cheers.
As hokum suggested earlier, JZM's conversion will be the surface transforms one which is a bit more reasonable costwise than OEM and it's a different type of ceramic rotor. You'll have to get the calipers repainted though.Cheers.
If I had a GT3, whether 996, 997, or 991, I'd want pccbs. For a performance focussed car I'd want the latest technology, lightest weight and all the other benefits.
New at list, they seem very good value, but to retro-fit would probably be prohibitively expensive.
However, I'm also a stickler for originality, so not sure I'd want an after market option. Best bet would be to find someone with a GT3 with pccbs who wants steels, and get an OPC to do a transfer from one to the other.
But it's a longshot - some do remove the pccbs if they are doing extensive track work , but guess they box them away for future re-fit.
New at list, they seem very good value, but to retro-fit would probably be prohibitively expensive.
However, I'm also a stickler for originality, so not sure I'd want an after market option. Best bet would be to find someone with a GT3 with pccbs who wants steels, and get an OPC to do a transfer from one to the other.
But it's a longshot - some do remove the pccbs if they are doing extensive track work , but guess they box them away for future re-fit.
Koln-RS said:
If I had a GT3, whether 996, 997, or 991, I'd want pccbs. For a performance focussed car I'd want the latest technology, lightest weight and all the other benefits.
New at list, they seem very good value, but to retro-fit would probably be prohibitively expensive.
However, I'm also a stickler for originality, so not sure I'd want an after market option. Best bet would be to find someone with a GT3 with pccbs who wants steels, and get an OPC to do a transfer from one to the other.
But it's a longshot - some do remove the pccbs if they are doing extensive track work , but guess they box them away for future re-fit.
The Surface Transforms discs are far, far more durable than the original PCCBs. It's no brainer, and choosing originality over them (the ST discs) is akin to saying you want your M69 engine rebuilt with an original M96 intermediate shaft/bearing and rear main seal in the name of originality when you get Hartech to rebuild it..... New at list, they seem very good value, but to retro-fit would probably be prohibitively expensive.
However, I'm also a stickler for originality, so not sure I'd want an after market option. Best bet would be to find someone with a GT3 with pccbs who wants steels, and get an OPC to do a transfer from one to the other.
But it's a longshot - some do remove the pccbs if they are doing extensive track work , but guess they box them away for future re-fit.
Koln-RS said:
Sorry, I was referring to re-sale value. The market likes pccbs, but premium buyers would want O.E.
True, but the ST discs are far more durable than the OE PCCB's, and judging by the amount of posters asking whether their new/used cars should be specced with/have PCCB's as they've heard/have concerns over their durability, I'd say most would choose the improved, more durable and well regarded non-OE items over the factory items.Of course your warranty will be voided, but the cars are on the whole durable, whereas the PCCB's are not, but worse still, they're rather expensive as the OP has found out !
Slippydiff said:
Koln-RS said:
Sorry, I was referring to re-sale value. The market likes pccbs, but premium buyers would want O.E.
True, but the ST discs are far more durable than the OE PCCB's, and judging by the amount of posters asking whether their new/used cars should be specced with/have PCCB's as they've heard/have concerns over their durability, I'd say most would choose the improved, more durable and well regarded non-OE items over the factory items.Of course your warranty will be voided, but the cars are on the whole durable, whereas the PCCB's are not, but worse still, they're rather expensive as the OP has found out !
although i do know that PCCBs can be ruined easily without proper heat management.
GT cars are track capable and durable with proper maintenance so I wouldn't be put off by track usage. And yes, I would rather have ST discs than OE PCCB disc
Personally I wouldn't bother. The steels are more than adequate for road for. If you are going on circuit get proper race spec steels - they are much better than porsche OEM PCCB and a whole lot cheaper as well. You can swap back come resale time. A non PCCB equiped car wuldn't put me off if the rest of the spec, milage and condition were right.
isaldiri said:
As hokum suggested earlier, JZM's conversion will be the surface transforms one which is a bit more reasonable costwise than OEM and it's a different type of ceramic rotor. You'll have to get the calipers repainted though.
Anyone know how much roughly JZM would charge for replacement Surface Transformation ceramic discs + pads on a 997.2 GT3?Fl0pp3r said:
Anyone know how much roughly JZM would charge for replacement Surface Transformation ceramic discs + pads on a 997.2 GT3?
Think I recall something like £~8500+vat when I asked about it last year for 4 ST rotors and pagid RSC1 pads. Ballpark figure I don't think it'll be that far out. 
isaldiri said:
Think I recall something like £~8500+vat when I asked about it last year for 4 ST rotors and pagid RSC1 pads. Ballpark figure I don't think it'll be that far out.
That doesn't sound too painful, especially when compared to oem. I'd consider this route, paint the Calipers if they are the same units.Sure the car won't be 'original' but it can be swapped back when the time comes
Thanks gents.
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