Webber/Fisi incident?
Discussion
Fisichella got told to be more careful next time...
It's funny how when Montoya got into a bit of bother there (was it with Schumacher? I can't remember) he got a definite penalty (very similar incident) and this time it was just a warning.
story on www.autosport.com (worth paying for) or on www.itv-f1.com (so badly edited it's untrue, not worth being paid for).
It's funny how when Montoya got into a bit of bother there (was it with Schumacher? I can't remember) he got a definite penalty (very similar incident) and this time it was just a warning.
story on www.autosport.com (worth paying for) or on www.itv-f1.com (so badly edited it's untrue, not worth being paid for).
I thought Brundle's comments were interesting that was was avoidable. Surely all accidents are avoidable hence the term accident. I reckon this was an out and out racing incident. Fisi was breaking way too late, Webber having tried to squeeze him, had moved to a much wider line but was still hit.
The Williams pair had been involved in some great racing through out the race, and this accident was as a result of some great racing as well, one of those things, so I find it odd that the commentators complain about it. No racing and they complain, and complain after this racing, can't win!!
The Williams pair had been involved in some great racing through out the race, and this accident was as a result of some great racing as well, one of those things, so I find it odd that the commentators complain about it. No racing and they complain, and complain after this racing, can't win!!
PWellsie said:
As I see it Webber insists that he "knew" that Fisichella was going to be going straight on at the corner anyway...
So why drive himself round the outside, right into the path he "knew" the Renault was going to take?
If he knew where Fisichella was headed, and put his car in the firing line anyway, he is the one responsible for the collision occuring.
If he'd went up the inside, or used a bit more caution, Fisichella would have slithered about allowing him to pass with ease.
very true.
more than anything, it testifies that most of them have forgotten whatever they knew about the art of overtaking (from their f3000/kart days, etc).
it's so rare nowadays (apart from some straight line/out dragging dummies) that true dicing and different lines into/out of corners/braking zones has most of them stumped if they find themselves in the midst of such a scenario. they panic.
maybe they're all from the m schumacher school of overtaking - ie, if someone has the temerity to attempt to do so, bash into them!
not much fun to watch nowadays, is it?
egoboss said:
maybe they're all from the m schumacher school of overtaking - ie, if someone has the temerity to attempt to do so, bash into them!
not much fun to watch nowadays, is it?
I watched the highlights program.
Blinked and missed them.
Should be changed to the "Report" program.
The overtaking school is surely a family thing isn't it , not just MS?
egoboss said:
As I see it Webber insists that he "knew" that Fisichella was going to be going straight on at the corner anyway...
So why drive himself round the outside, right into the path he "knew" the Renault was going to take?
If he knew where Fisichella was headed, and put his car in the firing line anyway, he is the one responsible for the collision occuring.
If he'd went up the inside, or used a bit more caution, Fisichella would have slithered about allowing him to pass with ease.
very true.
more than anything, it testifies that most of them have forgotten whatever they knew about the art of overtaking (from their f3000/kart days, etc).
it's so rare nowadays (apart from some straight line/out dragging dummies) that true dicing and different lines into/out of corners/braking zones has most of them stumped if they find themselves in the midst of such a scenario. they panic.
maybe they're all from the m schumacher school of overtaking - ie, if someone has the temerity to attempt to do so, bash into them!
not much fun to watch nowadays, is it?
SOrry, this is just complete nonsense, of course they havne't forgotten how to race. See DCs moves in Australia (and the way he dealt with that Minardi that messed him up a little bit).
See also the 3 way ralf schumacher-mark webber-nick heidfeld battle that lasted half a lap or so with only a little bit of touching and a lot of position swapping.
As I said on another thread, I think Fisi was at fault for out braking himself on the dirty side of the track on knackered tyres, he should have known he had no chance of making it around like that.
BUT, Webber should have learnt from his "encounter" with R. Schumacher on that very same corner not long before.
BUT, Webber should have learnt from his "encounter" with R. Schumacher on that very same corner not long before.
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