Reason not to buy on eBay
Reason not to buy on eBay
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Muncher

Original Poster:

12,235 posts

278 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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A mate asked me to bid on a poker table top for him on eBay, reluctantly I did it.

This is the item I won. Note the description as 'New' and the pretty good feedback of the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6160351573&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:UK:6

The table arrived, the underside was damaged and fixed with black tape, on the top 2 of the 8 plastic trays for holding chips were missing, leaving big holes in the board which was painted white. Clearly it's not much use in that state!

I e-mailed him telling him it was deffective and asking for a refund or one which was actually as advertised.

His reply?


Sorry but the item was sold as B grade stock!? These tables retail at £69 and the price you paid reflected the fact that they were shop soiled.

I can send you some spare trays if you confirm your address.

Regards,

Dominic



ninjadave

2,101 posts

285 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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Where does it say B-Grade on the advert???

Sounds like a bit of a tosser - make sure you give him negative feedback... and get your mate to get his own ID on ebay; leaves you out of buying crap.
- I have to do this for other people too, and it can get quite annoying when the price starts going up, or they're unsure they actually want something, so I feel for you there mate!

You could also report him to eBay gods for advertising things incorrectly. I doubt they'd actually take any action, but it'd be worth a try.

Edited as my finger hit return too early

>> Edited by ninjadave on Monday 21st March 09:16

Muncher

Original Poster:

12,235 posts

278 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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ninjadave said:
Where does it say B-Grade on the advert???


Indeed!

FourWheelDrift

92,239 posts

313 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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Ebay guidlines on items described as new - Guideline for describing an item's condition as "new" An item can be listed as new if it's unused, fully functional and has no signs of damage or wear.

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 21st March 09:32

bor

5,141 posts

284 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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Maybe he's just bluffing.

Dakkon

7,829 posts

282 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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I have never bought anything from ebay precisely for this very reason, you cannot trust the seller, simple as that.

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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Dakkon said:
I have never bought anything from ebay precisely for this very reason, you cannot trust the seller, simple as that.


I take it you've never sold anything on eBay,
because you don't trust the buyers either?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

274 months

Monday 21st March 2005
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Send him another polite email asking him to either replace the table with one as described in the auction, and to arrange collection of the existing table. Or to arrange collection and refund your money including the delivery charge.
If he refuses, do a PayPal chargeback claim (you did pay by paypal, didn't you?).

Don't leave negative feedback yet, it removes a lot of his incentive to sort it out. He's got one recent iffy neg, two would look pretty bad.

Muncher

Original Poster:

12,235 posts

278 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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OK,

A few days later he sent 3 replacement trays (only asked for 2).

He has since left me positive feedback, what would you do?

Aside from some damage to the underneath which is (realively well) patched with tape the item is in as new condition.

jesusbuiltmycar

5,125 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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Give him the benefit of the doubt and leave some feedback.. (neutral or poitive) maybe???

beanbag

7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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Did you pay by PayPal? If so, then your entitled to a full refund as the item was not described correctly.

This argument worked for me when I bought my car. I managed to get another £400 off the final bid price

Bodo

12,587 posts

295 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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It was offered as "NEW" but it is damaged. You/your mate paid for "NEW" and no refund given for the damages.
Ask him for a reasonable refund, and if he doesn't pay, give him a negative feedback. When he does, give him a neutral feedback.
Why? You had grief with the transaction, and he did that deal several times knowingly (look at his latest feedbacks).
That way you don't devalue a positive feedback, which should only be given for normal transactions; i. e. Buyer pays, seller ships, no delay, no faults in product.

Frik

13,677 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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Loooking at his feedback, it seems you are not the only one who was dissatisfied with their poker table purchase.

I say give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not as if he's unaware of the problems and he has tried to (sort of) make amends.

I'm always a bit wary of "stock" photos rather than actual photos of the particular item.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

267 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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Muncher,

Get him SUED!!!