10 Watches To Invest In Right Now - Lloyd Amsdon/Watchfinder
10 Watches To Invest In Right Now - Lloyd Amsdon/Watchfinder
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Phooey

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13,876 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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I know FA about investing in watches but thought this was interesting. What are peoples thoughts on the 10 choices here? http://www.esquire.co.uk/style/watches/news/g7190/...

"Looking to buy a watch that looks great and will rise in value? Lloyd Amsdon, co-founder of the world’s largest pre-owned watch marketplace watchfinder.co.uk, selects 10 pieces with real investment potential"

freshkid

199 posts

222 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Early Breitling is probably a good shout. The rest don't seem like obvious choices to me. I see in other areas of collecting that items which weren't appreciated fully the first time around are more likely to become collectible in the future...there is also a high chance of them remaining in NOS/Mint condition. James Cameron Deep Sea springs to mind...I think that will rise in value and become more appreciated.

Pure speculation though. Surprised they didn't choose a G-Shock or a smartwatch for the list too.

SirSquidalot

4,064 posts

195 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Disagree on the Deep Sea, they didn't sell for a reason! Think it's far too big to become a classic. Tudor is also a curious one, I've heard a few people speculate that early black bays and Pelagos models will hold value better than the in house movement models.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Sealtt will be pleased, as his watch gets a mention.

In terms of the list, it will be interesting to see if the Skydweller build a bigger following going forward.

Phooey

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13,876 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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SirSquidalot said:
Disagree on the Deep Sea, they didn't sell for a reason!
I must be in the minority that quite likes the chunky look of the Deep Sea. Is the blue version the rarer or more collectable of the 2? The Blue seems a lot more expensive from a quick Google on Deep Seas for sale.



SirSquidalot

4,064 posts

195 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Phooey said:
I must be in the minority that quite likes the chunky look of the Deep Sea. Is the blue version the rarer or more collectable of the 2? The Blue seems a lot more expensive from a quick Google on Deep Seas for sale.
I believe the blue model was a special edition to commemorate James Cameron's dive? May be wrong on that, does seem to command a premium though.

Vanguard21

279 posts

164 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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SirSquidalot said:
I believe the blue model was a special edition to commemorate James Cameron's dive? May be wrong on that, does seem to command a premium though.
Rolex had st loads of Deepsea Dwellers left so they decided to replace their stock with a new colour face and list it as 'Commemorative' model.

SirSquidalot

4,064 posts

195 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Vanguard21 said:
Rolex had st loads of Deepsea Dwellers left so they decided to replace their stock with a new colour face and list it as 'Commemorative' model.
They would never do something like that, how dare you! hehe

Vanguard21

279 posts

164 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Yes, sorry, what was I thinking?

Phooey

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13,876 posts

199 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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SirSquidalot said:
I believe the blue model was a special edition to commemorate James Cameron's dive? May be wrong on that, does seem to command a premium though.
Cheers. Quite a big premium...

WatchMajor

92 posts

146 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Looks like he has managed to list all his tricky sellers, I wouldn't say any of them were top 10 investment pieces at all

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

295 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Phooey said:
I know FA about investing in watches but thought this was interesting. What are peoples thoughts on the 10 choices here? http://www.esquire.co.uk/style/watches/news/g7190/...

"Looking to buy a watch that looks great and will rise in value? Lloyd Amsdon, co-founder of the world’s largest pre-owned watch marketplace watchfinder.co.uk, selects 10 pieces with real investment potential"
yep all those will loose you £1000's the minute you walk out the door !

as for holding value, well at best again none of those are, in real terms holding value is lost money !

very poor list, I bought my new SMPc for £1900 and my Black bay for £1650 ! (but as you know sold the Tudor, very over rated)

2 other watches I bought last year have both gone up £1k, and this years buy is up £1k atm also, 2 are Rolex and one is a rare Monaco.

only buy 2nd hand Rolex imo for long term money in the bank, unless you can get the new Daytona which will make you £4k over night atm.



Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 17th May 09:08

marcosgt

11,504 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Phooey said:
I know FA about investing in watches but thought this was interesting. What are peoples thoughts on the 10 choices here? http://www.esquire.co.uk/style/watches/news/g7190/...

"Looking to buy a watch that looks great and will rise in value? Lloyd Amsdon, co-founder of the world’s largest pre-owned watch marketplace watchfinder.co.uk, selects 10 pieces with real investment potential"
yep all those will loose you £1000's the minute you walk out the door !

as for holding value, well at best again none of those are, in real terms holding value is lost money !
I'd agree about most, but I can't see you losing £1000s on a vintage Breitling Navitimer at that price (OK, it's a LITTLE steep, but not for a mint one).

Looking around, they seem to hold their value VERY well, so you'd probably get it back in 5 years (assuming inflation is almost zero still).

That one, though, seems to be the exception to, as said, a list of his current stock... Maybe he just happens to have a Navitimer too? wink

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bigandclever

14,408 posts

268 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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re: Rolex Sky-Dweller ... from their own site

This watch has never been worn. This is a pre-owned Rolex Sky-Dweller 326938. It has a 42mm Yellow Gold case, a Champagne Arabic dial, a Yellow Gold (Oyster) bracelet, and is powered by an Automatic movement. The case has a R144xxxx serial and paperwork is dated 28 March 2016, making it less than a year old, and comes complete with box.
PRICE £24,950
RETAIL PRICE £30,800

So dropped 20% in less than a year, and that's retail.

Or this one
This is a pre-owned Rolex Sky-Dweller 326135. It has a 42mm Rose Gold case, a Brown Arabic dial, a Crocodile - Brown bracelet, and is powered by an Automatic movement. The case has a 76S9xxxx serial and paperwork is dated 04 July 2014, making it 2 years old, and comes complete with box.
PRICE £18,500
RETAIL PRICE £26,350

So dropped 30% in less than two years, and again that's retail.

Have I got a different idea of what 'investment potential' is?

hosedoctor

664 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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I would have thought the D blue would be a good bet??

andy_s

19,857 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Best buy is an early chronograph that is about to be featured on Hodinkee Auction watch. Zenith Cairellis for £15k, early Autavias for £20k, Lemania viggens for £10k, Heuer Bunds for £2.5k....all featured on the Phillips auction recently and pre-publicised on Hodinkee leading to a 50-100-200% rise in normal float prices.