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lazyitus

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19,931 posts

295 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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So, which is it?

07836 123456

or

0783 6123456

I'm sure its the first option but people seem to think its correct to give their number as the 2nd option?

Do you know what I mean?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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For mobiles 5-6 is correct.

So the first option.

lazyitus

Original Poster:

19,931 posts

295 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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So why do people 'trendy-up' their numbers?

arcturus

1,497 posts

292 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Its the first option. The first 5 digits identify the network host and the last 6 is your personal number on that host.

It's got a bit trickier with number porting becoming popular, since whilst 07771 might notionally be Vodafone, if I port my number to Orange then clearly it no longer has anything to do with Vodafone even though 07771 is in Vodafone's allocation.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

277 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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lazyitus said:
07836 123456

or

0783 6123456

They're both wrong. I just dialled them and got an automatic reply "You have dialled an incorrect number, please check the number and re-dial".

lazyitus

Original Poster:

19,931 posts

295 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

lazyitus said:
07836 123456

or

0783 6123456


They're both wrong. I just dialled them and got an automatic reply "You have dialled an incorrect number, please check the number and re-dial".


arcturus

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Monday 28th February 2005
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arcturus

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292 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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lazyitus said:
So why do people 'trendy-up' their numbers?


I have no idea (other than it ocasionally makes a number easier to remember) but for some bizarre reason it really hacks me off!!

chrisbr68

5,500 posts

277 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Never knew that. I just assumed it was the 2nd option! Because Im used to saying it that way I probably will keep it like that. When I try to remember it, I just think of it as 0771 123 1234.

rude girl

6,937 posts

288 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Suspect that the change in the way people write them is something to do with 'chunking'. The human brain processes and remembers data in sets, and the optimal number of bits of information is 4 to 5.

If you have the number as a 5 and a 6, it's more difficult to process through the short term memory. When there were fewer networks, then the 5 digit number would be 'recognised and held' as a single chunk, and you'd remember the 6 digit number as a 3-3 (you can spot the psychological process if you ask someone to tell you their number out loud; they'll apply intonation as if it were a sentence; one two three [tiny pause] four five six). Just recently, I've noticed a lot of people will give me a 3-4-4 set if reading it out on the 'phone.

Now that was fascinating, wasn't it?

pmanson

13,388 posts

282 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Same with land lines.

My home number is: 01296 xxxxxx

but my work number I always give out as:

0208 xxx xxxx


Don't know why they just seem to roll off the tounge that way.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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London should be a 3-4-4 schema

arcturus

1,497 posts

292 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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pmanson said:
Same with land lines.

My home number is: 01296 xxxxxx

but my work number I always give out as:

0208 xxx xxxx


Don't know why they just seem to roll off the tounge that way.



Both are correct. 0208 is the correct official code for outer London.

Details here

>> Edited by arcturus on Monday 28th February 13:32

Psychobert

6,318 posts

285 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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rude girl said:
Suspect that the change in the way people write them is something to do with 'chunking'. The human brain processes and remembers data in sets, and the optimal number of bits of information is 4 to 5.


The magic number is 7 +/- 2, so in theory the whole number could be remembered. Personaly I recite 5, 3, 3. Really throws me when someone repeats it back to me in a different format..

chrisbr68

5,500 posts

277 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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With respect to landline numbers I give mine out as 020 8xxx xxxx. Because Most of the people I talk to may be in 0207 or 0208. Thus nobody gives out the 020 because you dont need it if youre calling 0207 from 0208 and vice versa.

I always thought that 01895 was ruislip but its not. IIRC, its 018956 and uxbridge/harefield are 018958.

Its all over the place really, why cant the whole country use something straight forward? Is it like this abroad?

arcturus

1,497 posts

292 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Psychobert said:

Personaly I recite 5, 3, 3. Really throws me when someone repeats it back to me in a different format..


Same here!! Especially if they use 4-4-3

arcturus

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292 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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chrisbr68 said:

I always thought that 01895 was ruislip but its not. IIRC, its 018956 and uxbridge/harefield are 018958.




01895 covers Uxbridge, Denham, Harefield, Ruislip and West Drayton.

Details:<a href="http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/cgi-bin-Phones/nng?GNG=01895&Submit=Submit">www.ukphoneinfo.com/cgi-bin-Phones/nng?GNG=01895&Submit=Submit</a>

The 6th digit will determine which of these exchanges the call should be routed to.


>> Edited by arcturus on Monday 28th February 13:40

>> Edited by arcturus on Monday 28th February 13:40

chrisbr68

5,500 posts

277 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Ah right, I figured it might be something along those lines. Ta

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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London is 020, never 0208 etc

i.e. 020 8000 8000

although at the moment it's just 020 7 and 020 8 the 7 = inner and 8 = outer bit still works, however the whole point of the change was to release 020 1 - 020 6 and 9 for use as London numbers so this will change in the future

you'd hope a billion telephone numbers would be enough for one city

agent006

12,058 posts

293 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Is london not just a huge numptified set of proper dialling codes, i.e.:

020 8111 8111
is actually
02081 118 111

??