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Following on from thread about corners, I'd like to know if anyone else is bothered nowadays about foul throws. I watch with embarrassment as not only premier league footballers but also champions league stars constantly throw the ball in with no regard to doing it in a legal manner (some throws can be even comical).This does not for some reason not seem to bother referees in the slightest- I cuss my 15 year old for doing it on a Sunday morning but am I being too old-fashioned thinking both feet on the ground ball behind the head etc. This probably harks back to one of my all-time Chelsea faves Ian Hutchinson with his windmill arms !!
Why are they foul throws? Lots look ugly but they are perfectly legal, a bit like the women on a night out in Romford.
Players often appeal to me for foul throws, but part of both feet on the ground, at least a pert of one foot behind the line, ball delivered over the head with both hands, etc. and it's fine. Nothing in the Laws about where it is delivered from (i.e. where is point of release?), how far it needs to be thrown, etc.
People get confused when the throw in motion is slowed down to "drop" the ball at a teammates feet, so it looks wrong, but is actually ok. That's what I see anyway.
Players often appeal to me for foul throws, but part of both feet on the ground, at least a pert of one foot behind the line, ball delivered over the head with both hands, etc. and it's fine. Nothing in the Laws about where it is delivered from (i.e. where is point of release?), how far it needs to be thrown, etc.
People get confused when the throw in motion is slowed down to "drop" the ball at a teammates feet, so it looks wrong, but is actually ok. That's what I see anyway.
monty999 said:
This probably harks back to one of my all-time Chelsea faves Ian Hutchinson with his windmill arms !!
1970 cup final winning goal.My son is a youth referee, mainly doing 11-15 yr olds. It's not unusual for him to give 2 or 3 foul throws for the same throw in! Team A f
ks it up, throw goes to team B who also fk it up, back to team A to fk is up a second time, by which time the second team B attempt is normally just about passable. TwigtheWonderkid said:
1970 cup final winning goal.
My son is a youth referee, mainly doing 11-15 yr olds. It's not unusual for him to give 2 or 3 foul throws for the same throw in! Team A fks it up, throw goes to team B who also fk it up, back to team A to fk is up a second time, by which time the second team B attempt is normally just about passable.
And quite right he is to do so.My son is a youth referee, mainly doing 11-15 yr olds. It's not unusual for him to give 2 or 3 foul throws for the same throw in! Team A f
ks it up, throw goes to team B who also fk it up, back to team A to fk is up a second time, by which time the second team B attempt is normally just about passable. Paul-4gg49 said:
Why are they foul throws? Lots look ugly but they are perfectly legal, a bit like the women on a night out in Romford.
Players often appeal to me for foul throws, but part of both feet on the ground, at least a pert of one foot behind the line, ball delivered over the head with both hands, etc. and it's fine. Nothing in the Laws about where it is delivered from (i.e. where is point of release?), how far it needs to be thrown, etc.
People get confused when the throw in motion is slowed down to "drop" the ball at a teammates feet, so it looks wrong, but is actually ok. That's what I see anyway.
The rules actually state that the ball is thrown 'from BEHIND the head' & not 'over the head ,which I must admit is a pretty ambiguous statement as like you say point of release is not stated.The way I always saw it was exactly that the ball had to be released from BEHIND the head not thrown from in front as we see many players doing just dropping the ball at a players feet which does look wrong..or not as you say.Confusing.Players often appeal to me for foul throws, but part of both feet on the ground, at least a pert of one foot behind the line, ball delivered over the head with both hands, etc. and it's fine. Nothing in the Laws about where it is delivered from (i.e. where is point of release?), how far it needs to be thrown, etc.
People get confused when the throw in motion is slowed down to "drop" the ball at a teammates feet, so it looks wrong, but is actually ok. That's what I see anyway.
Never been to Romford so can't comment on Romford ladies throw ins !
Edited by monty999 on Monday 22 February 19:46
fathomfive said:
They could start by taking them from the rough location of where the ball actually went out.
There's a couple of things with that. Martin Atkinson is a stickler for this at Premier League level, and has awarded throws the other way a couple of times this season. There is also a misconception that players can take a throw from behind where the ball went out of play (thus "costing" them yards), and this is incorrect as well and should be punished by the referee.I referee at Step 5 and I awarded 4 foul throws in a game two weeks back. Two for feet off the ground and two for just being dreadful throws. If the semi-pro guys can't get it right, how can the kids?
Jefferson Steelflex said:
There's a couple of things with that. Martin Atkinson is a stickler for this at Premier League level, and has awarded throws the other way a couple of times this season. There is also a misconception that players can take a throw from behind where the ball went out of play (thus "costing" them yards), and this is incorrect as well and should be punished by the referee.
Given the referee carries a tin of foam for marking out free kicks, it wouldn't be beyond them or the linesman to mark the spot where the throw must be released from, provided the regulations afforded them the ability to do so.monty999 said:
The rules actually state that the ball is thrown 'from BEHIND the head' & not 'over the head ,
Winky151 said:
Paul-4gg49 said:
at least a pert of one foot behind the line,
Soooo many people believe that both feet have to be totally behind the line. 
FIFA Laws of the Game 2015-16 said:
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower:
- faces the field of play
- has part of each foot either on the touch line or on the ground outside the touch line
- holds the ball with both hands
- delivers the ball from behind and over his head
- delivers the ball from the point where it left the field of play
Read more at http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/law...
simoid said:
Yes, I meant to point out that it wasn't just over the head, soz.So, would it be a legal throw-in if ,as long as the ball starts behind the head, the hands bring the ball over and drop the ball from in front of the head as this would satisfy the requirements as I now understand like Paul said it may look wrong but it isn't.
Edited by monty999 on Saturday 27th February 18:29
What I find odd is the way no one from the opposing team doesn't immediately "mark" the thrower once he's bunged the ball in.
90% of the time the ball gets passed straight back to the thrower, who then has space to play.
When I played we detailed someone to instantly close down the thrower (or Percy as we called him) to stop this happening.
Quite often this would lead to Percy being, quite literally, kicked into touch.
90% of the time the ball gets passed straight back to the thrower, who then has space to play.
When I played we detailed someone to instantly close down the thrower (or Percy as we called him) to stop this happening.
Quite often this would lead to Percy being, quite literally, kicked into touch.
Hammer67 said:
What I find odd is the way no one from the opposing team doesn't immediately "mark" the thrower once he's bunged the ball in.
90% of the time the ball gets passed straight back to the thrower, who then has space to play.
When I played we detailed someone to instantly close down the thrower (or Percy as we called him) to stop this happening.
Quite often this would lead to Percy being, quite literally, kicked into touch.
Poor old Percy !90% of the time the ball gets passed straight back to the thrower, who then has space to play.
When I played we detailed someone to instantly close down the thrower (or Percy as we called him) to stop this happening.
Quite often this would lead to Percy being, quite literally, kicked into touch.
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