THATCHAM approval 4 my GTS Coupe???

THATCHAM approval 4 my GTS Coupe???

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HSVGTSCoupe

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2,535 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Gidday all,
My GTS Coupe arrives in the UK next week & I have got a fairly good insurance deal off Tesco's but they won't confirm theft cover until I provide proof the immobiliser/alrm meets THATCHAM Cat 1 or 2. The HSV ESS system, complete with HSV DNA data dots is exactly the same as the VXR which I assume meets all UK criteria?? How do I satisfy this beurocratic BS?? It's the same damn system by a diff name. Any help much appreciated.

SHAMBLES

BTW.... Looking forward to getting involved with HSV UK enthusiasts once my REAL Monaro hits pommy land!

V8HSV

2,457 posts

267 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Welcome

Where abouts are you?

Will

Cubittus

95 posts

254 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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My VXR's immobiliser/alarm is not thatcham approved - fortunately my insurer (elephant) did not require it.

You might want to consider a tracker as well ...

GTSCoupe

Original Poster:

2,535 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Hey Will,

I'm in Oxford, been here a month, stickin around for 3 years. GTS Coupe is stock except 4 full pacemaker exhaust system fitted by Watson Holden when new. I've seen yr machine online... just a few neddy's under that bonnet!!

island boy hsv

726 posts

254 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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I went round the loop with Tesco and they were less than helpfull. I did not wont to get some one to put on an imobiliser when I read how good the HSV system is. To cut a long story short I went to Adrian Flux.

jagsy

1,462 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Welcome
Look forward to see you and the mota

Where in Oz do you come from?

Richard

comm_SS_V8

310 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Hey GTSCoupe/HSVGTSCoupe, welcome to the forums. I'm usually in the Oxford area (Bayworth) visiting the mother-in-law on a regular basis. Would be good to meet up sometime soon. Drop me a line with your contact details if you'd be so kind.

My car had a Meta Systems alarm/immobiliser fitter when it came to the UK by it's previous owner. This is in addition to the standard stuff. No problems with the insurance companies so far.

You're right though. Most insurance companies that I've dealt with for this car (and previous) insist on seeing proof that you've actually got this Cat 1 fitted. This usually means sending them the original installation certificate (You will get it back). Some may accept a copy. If you send the original, make sure you take a copy It all depends on the insurance company. Most will send you the certificate of motor insurance, but you'll only have a limited time to prove you've got the Cat 1 before they start hounding you.

In your situation, it could be difficult to prove even if you get something from Holden in writing. The problem is it won't have gone through the Thatcham testing procedures so can't be classified as a Cat 1 system. Most UK insurance companies won't know what car you're trying to insure let alone what alarm system you have. They'll simply see it as a manufacturers defacto alarm, which mostly means to them that it's not a Thatcham Cat 1.

Best advise is shop around or get a Cat 1 fitted in parallel. Unless others have different ideas.

EH*ROB

850 posts

259 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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G'day Julian,

Welcome mate, great to see another HSV arriving here in the UK,

Look forward to meeting you & seeing what sounds like a Very nice car.

All the best,
Rob.


>> Edited by EH*ROB on Sunday 20th February 20:58

The Jackel

351 posts

248 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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Pentagon Vauxhall in Derby told me the alarm and immobilser on my CV8 is thatcham cat 2 if this is any good

uk hsv

1,692 posts

268 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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I have spoken to Thatcham and they have not tested any Vauxhall/Holden Monaro's.............

It is also not on their "to do list"..........

hsvgtscoupe

Original Poster:

2,535 posts

245 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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Thanks all for the feedback so far...

Personal background for those who asked.. Born in UK, left aged 4, pretty much been in Oz since, Melbourne's my home & Collingwood my team - (I swear I will never call soccer football!). I manage a Japanese electronix/instrument business near Oxford after running their Oz subsiduary for a while, always been a Holden nut and progressed - VT SS, VT-II Clubbie, GTS Coupe. LUV IT! Lookin forward to spinnin some hoops wiv u guys and findin someone who can hook me up wiv some OP Bundy once my 8 litres of stock is exhausted!!
Cheers, Julian

uk hsv

1,692 posts

268 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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I have been onto Adrian S Flux about this Thatcham alarm stuff and they have agreed to class all HSV/HOLDEN/VAUXHALL's with the ESS system fitted as being upto Thatcham class 1...........

So if you have had a problem with getting a quote from them because of the alarm please try them again.

if you have ANY PROBLEMS please talk to "Craig Darwin" and always mention the Drivers club for the best price...........

"HSVGTSCoupe" Flux should be contacting you....please keep me upto data on price and service.....

HSVGTScoupe

Original Poster:

2,535 posts

245 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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Cheers... Adrian Flux are coming back to me as per your comments. Will keep you posted. I'm hittin Elephant for a price as well.

HSVGTScoupe

Original Poster:

2,535 posts

245 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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update....
Tried elephant with no joy. I need cover from the dock under my Oz reg until I get the SVA test done a week or so later. Elephant won't touch it without a UK reg (post SVA) or at least that's wot the chick I spoke to said.

Aussiedude

164 posts

251 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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G'day HSVGTSCOUPE,

Welocme to the forum. A quick word of advice for your rum, I know it's not the OP but Sainsbury's sell the regular stuff (£16) at most stores. If you don't have any luck there, try Selfridges, they have the black also, around £25 a bottle though..

Adrian

Raggyman

2,317 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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I suffered the same problem, coming in with the QLD plates. I ended up going with NatWest, as they would insure it on QLD plates, without any problems at all.

Initially was going to insure with Adrian Flux, but in 2 months their quote went up from $860 to £1200. OUCH.

Anyhow, give NatWest a go for a quote as well.

Cheers
Jace

HSVGTScoupe

Original Poster:

2,535 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Cheers Jace..
Can u call me on 07860332815 if u have a chance?? (anytime) I spoke to Natwest, price was good but hit this THATCHAM alarm brick wall again. Wot did you do to cover this issue wiv yr wheels?

Julian

HSVGTScoupe

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2,535 posts

245 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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UPDATE.....
Thanx to all those who gave feedback. (esp Paul)
I am now insured with Tesco's, at £815 for the year with £400 excess. Did not need the THATCHAM approved alarm but sent about a zillion bits of paper covering details of the ESS system and a letter from LSV explaining the perils of changing it. Pickin up the wheels from the docks on Friday... hopefully it's still in one piece! Thanx again.
Julian