Now you see him....
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Is it just me, but, on the commercial where the biker is in the rear view mirror, then the wing mirror, then she/he knocks him off the bike, isn't the biker in the wrong for trying to overtake some1 who has indicated and proceeds to turn into a side street? 
Now you see him, NOW you see him, NOW YOU SEE HIM, the dummy trying to overtake you in a built up area!
Might provoke some of our biker chums, but I'm a biker myself so thats how I see it.
Now you see him, NOW you see him, NOW YOU SEE HIM, the dummy trying to overtake you in a built up area!
Might provoke some of our biker chums, but I'm a biker myself so thats how I see it.
This has been discussed before. The point was the driver didn't actually check to his right with his EYES. Mirrors have blind spots, the driver knew he was there but didn't check all around before moving. Equally the advert could be for bikers to remind them that people may not be able to see you. The whole point of the advert which IMHO is one of their best is that you should keep eyes out for each other.
No, I think you have spotted the sub text. Bikers are stupid as a car driver you should try not to kill too many. It would have been much fairer to bikers to show something that actaully happens on a daily basis. Volvo pulls out of junction in front of defensive driving bike who just manages to avoid getting killed by idiot car driver.
Cheers, Steve
Cerbie driving, life long biker.
Cheers, Steve
Cerbie driving, life long biker.
Seems like a reasonable "ad" to me. To be fair the amount of indication before the manoever is pitiful - taking mirror indicator manoever a tad too literally methinks. Chances are the biker would have already been committed to the overtake and would not have seen the indicators anyway.
No, I wouldn't have been relying on indications anyway, and yes I would be suspicious of someone slowing near a junction, but I think the message is pretty clear - mirrors aren't enough. Bikers know the importance of the lifesaver - that last look over the shoulder - and it wouldn't hurt for a few more to try it.
No, I wouldn't have been relying on indications anyway, and yes I would be suspicious of someone slowing near a junction, but I think the message is pretty clear - mirrors aren't enough. Bikers know the importance of the lifesaver - that last look over the shoulder - and it wouldn't hurt for a few more to try it.
While running in the 6R today i was overtaken by most things including a plastic pig , some of the overtaking monuvers by some bikers leaves a lot to be desired , makes you wonder if after watching the superbikes on tv they go out thinking they rossi or whoever , overtaking on double whites etc , im sorry but if they get hit thats there own fault , you have to think what the other drivers going to do not just yourself
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Chances are the biker would have already been committed to the overtake and would not have seen the indicators anyway.
What the hell's he doin overtakin in the first place, its a busy street on an approach to traffic lights.
I agree with Grey42Cerbie, show more of the bikers getting knocked off while numptie pulls out of a side road without looking. Although, doesn't matter if your in a car or on a bike, more seem to be doin this.
Send them to the gallows
By eck! This has got me stirred up tonight
quote:Its called filtering, and bikes do it all the time. Reality check - you might not like it while stuck in your car, but its perfectly legit and one of the main advantages of a bike in the urban sprawl.
What the hell's he doin overtakin in the first place, its a busy street on an approach to traffic lights.
Like I said, the biker in the ad may have been a bit dumb not anticipating the turn, but thats no excuse for maiming him with a reckless and badly indicated manoever.
If you can't see that then frankly you shouldn't be driving.
Incidentally, there used to be a rule of thumb that you should aim to have seven flashes of you indicators before the manoever. Don't know where I picked that up, but its lodged in there from somewhere.
Point is, an indicator is there to indicate what you intend to do, not as most people these days seem to think, to indicate what you are doing, or even have just done.
And as Smeagol pointed out, the real point of the "ad" is to encourage people to actually look, rather than relying on mirrors.
>> Edited by philshort on Monday 19th August 07:03
Point is, an indicator is there to indicate what you intend to do, not as most people these days seem to think, to indicate what you are doing, or even have just done.
And as Smeagol pointed out, the real point of the "ad" is to encourage people to actually look, rather than relying on mirrors.
>> Edited by philshort on Monday 19th August 07:03
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overtaking on double whites etc
Surely these are purely advisory on a bike? I can think of several roads where the local authority has painted double whites down the centre but there is ample visibility and time to overtake a numpty, on a bike.
>> Edited by Niggle on Monday 19th August 07:24
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Surely these are purely advisory on a bike? I can think of several roads where the local authority has painted double whites down the centre but there is ample visibility and time to overtake a numpty, on a bike.
I always thought solid white lines meant that you should try and get your bike between them when overtaking, hatched areas indicate a motorcycle lane, all speed limits only apply to cars and it's always the fault of whoever hits you regardless (bit like being on a push bike
) As for the advert, I haven't got a clue, I haven't seen it and have been too busy playing and polishing to even turn a telly on.quote:
I always thought solid white lines meant that you should try and get your bike between them when overtaking, hatched areas indicate a motorcycle lane,
I have overtaken on double whites when they are going stright but some of these blokes were doing it on blind left hand bends
Ive always used the hatched areas to make progress in traffic
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