New Tuscan owner, advice please
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Hi Guys I hope you can help me out with these newbie basic questions. I have looked on the search and seem to be getting lots of different advice. Hope you don't mind these novice questions I don't want to risk damaging this lovely motor. Its a 2003 Mk1.
1. When to check the oil.......I have read after warming the engine for 2 minutes, or when the oil reaches a certain temp, and lots of other ideas. What would you recommend.
2. Do you check by dipping or screwing the top fully in.
3. This is the warm up procedure I have been following, does this sound ok.
Not exceeding 3000 rpm until the oil temp is 40.
Not exceeding 4000 rpm until the oil temp is 60.
Not exceedind 7000 rpm until the oil temp is 80.
Many thanks for your help.
Kev.
1. When to check the oil.......I have read after warming the engine for 2 minutes, or when the oil reaches a certain temp, and lots of other ideas. What would you recommend.
2. Do you check by dipping or screwing the top fully in.
3. This is the warm up procedure I have been following, does this sound ok.
Not exceeding 3000 rpm until the oil temp is 40.
Not exceeding 4000 rpm until the oil temp is 60.
Not exceedind 7000 rpm until the oil temp is 80.
Many thanks for your help.
Kev.
Hi Kev, don't let the car idle from cold for a few minutes, just get in it drive it up to temp then check the oil, just dip the stick no need to screw it in, your rev range looks about right, this time of year it can take ages to get it up t some of the temps, just be sensible and enjoy these lovely cars....
TOV!E said:
Hi Kev, don't let the car idle from cold for a few minutes, just get in it drive it up to temp then check the oil, just dip the stick no need to screw it in, your rev range looks about right, this time of year it can take ages to get it up t some of the temps, just be sensible and enjoy these lovely cars....
Cheers GordonHi Kev,
I too have recently purchased a Tuscan in the last couple of weeks (are we mad, buying at the beginning of winter?!?) , on pick up I was told the following:
Oil - always check with the engine warm, and always on flat ground - wear gloves or use a towel as the cap gets extremely hot! unscrew the cap, clean the dipstick, dip back in (but don't screw) then check. Be sure to do this pretty soon after turning the engine off as the oil will recede.
Warm up procedure- I was told fairly similar, mine is a little easier to remember due to similarity in numbers though:
In the initial stages, keep below 2,500 RPM, ideally 2,000 but never let it just sit idle on the drive.
At 30 degrees, you can go to 3,000 RPM
At 40 degrees, you can go to 4,000 RPM
At 50 degrees, you can go to 5,000 RPM
60 degrees and up, the rev range is all yours.
If oil goes above 100 degrees, keep below 5,000 RPM
A bit of a discrepancy in the numbers but I think you won't go too far wrong following either - what it's basically saying is don't redline it until it's well up to temp - and be very careful with the revs in the initial stages.
Lovely colour combo and if it's anything like mine, great car! Enjoy
Ben
[Edit - change to clarify numbers slightly "can go to" rather than "don't exceed until" was what I was told, now I think about it]
I too have recently purchased a Tuscan in the last couple of weeks (are we mad, buying at the beginning of winter?!?) , on pick up I was told the following:
Oil - always check with the engine warm, and always on flat ground - wear gloves or use a towel as the cap gets extremely hot! unscrew the cap, clean the dipstick, dip back in (but don't screw) then check. Be sure to do this pretty soon after turning the engine off as the oil will recede.
Warm up procedure- I was told fairly similar, mine is a little easier to remember due to similarity in numbers though:
In the initial stages, keep below 2,500 RPM, ideally 2,000 but never let it just sit idle on the drive.
At 30 degrees, you can go to 3,000 RPM
At 40 degrees, you can go to 4,000 RPM
At 50 degrees, you can go to 5,000 RPM
60 degrees and up, the rev range is all yours.
If oil goes above 100 degrees, keep below 5,000 RPM
A bit of a discrepancy in the numbers but I think you won't go too far wrong following either - what it's basically saying is don't redline it until it's well up to temp - and be very careful with the revs in the initial stages.
Lovely colour combo and if it's anything like mine, great car! Enjoy
Ben
[Edit - change to clarify numbers slightly "can go to" rather than "don't exceed until" was what I was told, now I think about it]
Edited by kontortion on Tuesday 15th December 11:26
There are debates about the oil level methodology and I don't think there are absolutes about it, but is generally hot, immediately after turning off. If you have it serviced by a reputable garage, the key thing is to check it when you get it back and then be consistent in your methodology to track any oil consumption. If you're doing low miles and your engine is known to be sound you shouldn't need to top it up. Its only if you've got one suspected of needing a rebuild for whichever reason that it will start to consume larger quantities and you need to keep a keen eye on it.
Rev's / temps is about right, I just do mental maths of add 10 to the revs/100. As said, don't sit there idling or revving at start up.
Enjoy !
Rev's / temps is about right, I just do mental maths of add 10 to the revs/100. As said, don't sit there idling or revving at start up.
Enjoy !
The oil level checks previously mentioned are pretty much as per the book. Sometimes the oil pump seems to be in a perfect position to drain all of the oil back into the sump. On these occasions you won't be able to run round the car from turning off the ignition fast enough and you will hear the oil gurgling out of the header tank. So restart the car and try again. Best to get a mate to turn the ignition off while you stand poised ready for action.
There is an alternative 'cold' check, which may give you the confidence to run it up to the hot check. From cold remove and wipe the dipstick. Replace and screw it down. Withdraw and look at the level. If you can see any oil on the dipstick at all then you are good to go. The problem with this is that sometimes the oil all drains down into the sump leaving nothing on the dipstick. So it can either give you an okay to proceed at best or a worry that there is no oil in the car. You can try again by starting the car for a few seconds, turning it off and trying again.
As mentioned before best to check when you get home after the run out.
On the revs/oil temp. I just stay below 3K until the temp hits 60C as I can't be faffed to remember a stream of 3 different levels. If the weather is that cold that you can't get the temp up there then you probably shouldn't be using a lot of revs anyway. When the engine really comes on song at 5K plus then the horizon rapidly comes towards you as the power makes a step change. Make sure that you have good tyres and a dry, preferably warm, road under you before you go there.
HTH
Bob
There is an alternative 'cold' check, which may give you the confidence to run it up to the hot check. From cold remove and wipe the dipstick. Replace and screw it down. Withdraw and look at the level. If you can see any oil on the dipstick at all then you are good to go. The problem with this is that sometimes the oil all drains down into the sump leaving nothing on the dipstick. So it can either give you an okay to proceed at best or a worry that there is no oil in the car. You can try again by starting the car for a few seconds, turning it off and trying again.
As mentioned before best to check when you get home after the run out.
On the revs/oil temp. I just stay below 3K until the temp hits 60C as I can't be faffed to remember a stream of 3 different levels. If the weather is that cold that you can't get the temp up there then you probably shouldn't be using a lot of revs anyway. When the engine really comes on song at 5K plus then the horizon rapidly comes towards you as the power makes a step change. Make sure that you have good tyres and a dry, preferably warm, road under you before you go there.
HTH
Bob
Speed 3 said:
There are debates about the oil level methodology and I don't think there are absolutes about it, but is generally hot, immediately after turning off. If you have it serviced by a reputable garage, the key thing is to check it when you get it back and then be consistent in your methodology to track any oil consumption. If you're doing low miles and your engine is known to be sound you shouldn't need to top it up. Its only if you've got one suspected of needing a rebuild for whichever reason that it will start to consume larger quantities and you need to keep a keen eye on it.
Rev's / temps is about right, I just do mental maths of add 10 to the revs/100. As said, don't sit there idling or revving at start up.
Enjoy !
Some do use oil though so don't immediately panic if it needs a top up. Mine's on the high side and averages around a litre per 1500 miles or so and has done for the 40k miles I've done in it since the last rebuild. It's also safer to be at or slightly above max than low.Rev's / temps is about right, I just do mental maths of add 10 to the revs/100. As said, don't sit there idling or revving at start up.
Enjoy !
KEVTVR said:
Hi Guys I hope you can help me out with these newbie basic questions. I have looked on the search and seem to be getting lots of different advice. Hope you don't mind these novice questions I don't want to risk damaging this lovely motor. Its a 2003 Mk1.
1. When to check the oil.......I have read after warming the engine for 2 minutes, or when the oil reaches a certain temp, and lots of other ideas. What would you recommend.
2. Do you check by dipping or screwing the top fully in.
3. This is the warm up procedure I have been following, does this sound ok.
Not exceeding 3000 rpm until the oil temp is 40.
Not exceeding 4000 rpm until the oil temp is 60.
Not exceedind 7000 rpm until the oil temp is 80.
Many thanks for your help.
Kev.
Kev
That looks the dogs whatists!!!
No more Chim
1. When to check the oil.......I have read after warming the engine for 2 minutes, or when the oil reaches a certain temp, and lots of other ideas. What would you recommend.
2. Do you check by dipping or screwing the top fully in.
3. This is the warm up procedure I have been following, does this sound ok.
Not exceeding 3000 rpm until the oil temp is 40.
Not exceeding 4000 rpm until the oil temp is 60.
Not exceedind 7000 rpm until the oil temp is 80.
Many thanks for your help.
Kev.
Kev
That looks the dogs whatists!!!
No more Chim
CHIMV8 said:
KEVTVR said:
No more Chim Mark, I do miss the V8 rumble but I love the Tuscan and the amazing performance. Both great cars.
You will haunt you from the Chim Forum LOL,you wont get away that easy....Whats the colour?
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