997 Gen 2 Turbo or Turbo S
Discussion
Is the S worth the extra? are running costs the same (my mileage 15 to 20K a year)? there is a lovely turbo in JZM
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/gen...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/gen...
If both PDK (can you get a man gen 2 turbo?) running costs will be basically the same, only difference in running costs is the PCCB on the turbo S compared to a turbo without PCCB. Pads are more expensive, and IF you have a prob with the discs then that will cost ££££+.
Otherwise not much between them for running costs I would have thought.
Otherwise not much between them for running costs I would have thought.
PCCB are more expensive on paper but, in fairness, with road driving they work out no more expensive (perhaps less so). They also look incredible, inspire great confidence and don't leave any brake dust.
Turbo S cars have a very good specification. In fact, it was cheaper to get one than spec a Turbo to the same equipment levels when new. Hence, i would always get the S.
Turbo S cars have a very good specification. In fact, it was cheaper to get one than spec a Turbo to the same equipment levels when new. Hence, i would always get the S.
Had a 997 Gen 2 Turbo Cab last year & am now in the new 991 Turbo cab this year.
Personally having driven both, the performance difference is marginal. The standard Turbo brakes are fantastic & for me the extra depreciation on the Turbo S was the deciding factor for me to go with the Turbo. When I sold my 997 it was in big demand & I know my current one will be too. If I'd bought the Turbo S I know it would have hit me much harder on the residual.
Go for the Turbo if you want to lose less money. If that's not important to you go for the Turbo S
Personally having driven both, the performance difference is marginal. The standard Turbo brakes are fantastic & for me the extra depreciation on the Turbo S was the deciding factor for me to go with the Turbo. When I sold my 997 it was in big demand & I know my current one will be too. If I'd bought the Turbo S I know it would have hit me much harder on the residual.
Go for the Turbo if you want to lose less money. If that's not important to you go for the Turbo S
SnoopD said:
Had a 997 Gen 2 Turbo Cab last year & am now in the new 991 Turbo cab this year.
Personally having driven both, the performance difference is marginal. The standard Turbo brakes are fantastic & for me the extra depreciation on the Turbo S was the deciding factor for me to go with the Turbo. When I sold my 997 it was in big demand & I know my current one will be too. If I'd bought the Turbo S I know it would have hit me much harder on the residual.
Go for the Turbo if you want to lose less money. If that's not important to you go for the Turbo S
The depreciation seems quite good on both to me in percentage terms. They seem to both hold their value well and when they are a few years old anyway the depreciation will be less of an issue. Just wondering how often things like the discs need to be replaced if I'm doing 15 to 20k miles a year. The carbons on the S are bound to be very expensive which is putting me off a bit. By the way what type of discount can you expect on a new Turbo from Porsche on a good day?Personally having driven both, the performance difference is marginal. The standard Turbo brakes are fantastic & for me the extra depreciation on the Turbo S was the deciding factor for me to go with the Turbo. When I sold my 997 it was in big demand & I know my current one will be too. If I'd bought the Turbo S I know it would have hit me much harder on the residual.
Go for the Turbo if you want to lose less money. If that's not important to you go for the Turbo S
Pepsi Max 996T said:
I've been looking at that white turbo as well. My main concern is that it needed new tyres, discs and pads after only 26k 
It looks good and that specialist has some serious 911's in there. Was he selling it needing that work or had it just been done? I had to replace the discs and pads on my 2013 M5 after 30k+ which was also a shock. Do ceramics last longer and how much more expensive are they to replace?
Jonny TVR said:
It looks good and that specialist has some serious 911's in there. Was he selling it needing that work or had it just been done?
I had to replace the discs and pads on my 2013 M5 after 30k+ which was also a shock. Do ceramics last longer and how much more expensive are they to replace?
ceramics should last 100k+ if cared for and road use only, not sure of latest but I assumed £5k per corner to replaceI had to replace the discs and pads on my 2013 M5 after 30k+ which was also a shock. Do ceramics last longer and how much more expensive are they to replace?
I went through the same thoughts and found a Turbo S , I really wanted the carbon interior but will have to be after fit now, however I am glad I waited until I found an S the ceramics are outstanding and you get no pad dust , the car goes beyond belief (but I guess the non S does too ) . I got mine from Leeds and with 20k miles there are a few small signs of wear and tear on the interior but generally the car is spotless. I felt the extras you get on an S make it worth the look, they are getting rare now , with lots more non S versions for sale. Mine was a bit cheaper as it had no sunroof or heated seats, but TBH neither worry me, the heated seat could be added if I want later, and as the sun roofs are steel not glass I don't miss the light. With the. 991 Ts now well over £145k I can only see the 997 gen 2 holding its price or at the least stable, performance wise there is really little difference, to be also the 991 while pretty is a much more GT size car now and lost some of the classic 911 shape, but that's only my opinion.
Both have epic performance and the difference is unlikely to show during road use for most of us. The S is obviously a more rare derivative but there are turbos out there with very similar specs. It probably comes down to spec and colour availability at the time you are looking (and budget of course, but man maths can easily solve that for you).
I was looking for a turbo with ceramics in a particular colour for weekend use and European road trips...I was fortunate that a car came up that just happened to be a turbo s in the right colour.
Good luck with your search...
I was looking for a turbo with ceramics in a particular colour for weekend use and European road trips...I was fortunate that a car came up that just happened to be a turbo s in the right colour.
Good luck with your search...
Adam B said:
r1flyguy1 said:
Have you seen the TuboS cam Mayfair OPC have for sale OMG !!!!
Now that's a colour combo!!!
wow - I could almost live with the interior on a black / dark grey car, almostNow that's a colour combo!!!
The interior is almost the reserve for the lambo owners forum, but yeah, black exterior would be good with this
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