So, these PlanetX Pro-Carbon bikes...
Discussion
Lets say I have a budget somewhere around the £1k mark, and quite fancy the PX Pro Carbons...
I'm rarely one to upgrade my bikes, so would something like this shimano-ultegra-6800 under a grand with its 6800 groupset be better in the longer term than something like this SRAM with nice wheels a bit over a grand ...which has nice looking wheels that shout "oooh shiny"?
The aim is primarily for keeping fit but I want do do regular decent rides like Carten 100 and the tour of Pembrokeshire...
I'm rarely one to upgrade my bikes, so would something like this shimano-ultegra-6800 under a grand with its 6800 groupset be better in the longer term than something like this SRAM with nice wheels a bit over a grand ...which has nice looking wheels that shout "oooh shiny"?
The aim is primarily for keeping fit but I want do do regular decent rides like Carten 100 and the tour of Pembrokeshire...
I've had mine since Christmas (in 105 guise).
Lovely bike, very light and comfortable for long and short rides. I had issues with the wheels which I swapped but apparently this has been resolved since.
I got a very good deal on mine though and I'm not sure if I would spend £1k on one, so many other options out there, but in terms of groupset/full carbon frame you could do a lot worse!
Lovely bike, very light and comfortable for long and short rides. I had issues with the wheels which I swapped but apparently this has been resolved since.
I got a very good deal on mine though and I'm not sure if I would spend £1k on one, so many other options out there, but in terms of groupset/full carbon frame you could do a lot worse!
It's a nice frame - I am very happy with mine for the money. I did change the wheels to Zondas almost immediately.
I got mine with SRAM, but I have to say if I bought again I would go Shimano again - though not sufficiently put out to change.
Frame is a little 'pointy' handling wise, but I quite like that.
I got mine with SRAM, but I have to say if I bought again I would go Shimano again - though not sufficiently put out to change.
Frame is a little 'pointy' handling wise, but I quite like that.
I think the frame itself dates back to about 2009 in terms of design but I dont think that any of us would really notice unless we were really pushing it hard and racing.
Although carbon tech and knowledge have improved since then, I doubt whether that has filtered through to comparable entry level carbon frames so its still as good if not better than most carbon bikes around that sort of price and with Ultegra bits and the Team 30 wheelset, its still a bargain.
Although carbon tech and knowledge have improved since then, I doubt whether that has filtered through to comparable entry level carbon frames so its still as good if not better than most carbon bikes around that sort of price and with Ultegra bits and the Team 30 wheelset, its still a bargain.
Iv had one for 18 months now, full ultegra, I have just done over 2500 miles on it, only thing I have changed in the wheels, they are fulcrum racing zeros.
Done everything from a 10 miles ride, 16mile commute, several sportives and a London to paris on it. just about to look at changing everything to a new frame now, and Im looking at the RT-90 from planet x.
Done everything from a 10 miles ride, 16mile commute, several sportives and a London to paris on it. just about to look at changing everything to a new frame now, and Im looking at the RT-90 from planet x.
Not a bad choice, but I think I'd rather get something like this for £1200:
http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/radon-ignite-9....
http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/radon-ignite-9....
The £999 the Ultegra bike is selling at currently is great value. I'm chuffed to bits with mine, only issue was the FSA Team 30 wheels, although brilliant on the bike absolute mare to change a tyre / repair a puncture so I had to replace them. I went Easton EA70, but hindsight I'd have saved money and got chain reaction Ultegra wheels. I'd always go Shimano over SRAM but I think it's personal choice at the end of the day.
Wouldn't touch the ebay one.
Carbon clinchers 'worth 799' despite the fact that they sell them new for 349, certainly aren't a 'known' manufacturer; almost certainly home branded chinese carbons - you can get decent wheels that route, but you have no idea what those particular ones actually are.
Besides, you don't want to live with carbon clinchers day in day out, and frankly I'm not sure I'd go for a <500 quid set of *carbon* wheels. Carbon faired alloy yes, but not carbon clinchers. Plus 50 quid delivery and an arguably lower spec groupset than the one from Px directly for 200 quid more - barking
Also wonder how he's selling 'new' planet x bikes when their entire business model is direct-to-market. In case you don't know, the Px bikes are 'open mould' - you can get 'exactly' the same frame from many other places i.e. looks same but the layup may be totally different, as may the quality control. You pay a bit more for it from planet x, and in return they back it with UK dealer support, warranty and someone to shout at.
Not sure why you'd pay more for a no-name alu than a no-name carbon either.. Inclined to think the PX is a solid bike for the money personally, if not the latest word in frame design (not that I'm convinced the latest word in frame design matters for much!).
Carbon clinchers 'worth 799' despite the fact that they sell them new for 349, certainly aren't a 'known' manufacturer; almost certainly home branded chinese carbons - you can get decent wheels that route, but you have no idea what those particular ones actually are.
Besides, you don't want to live with carbon clinchers day in day out, and frankly I'm not sure I'd go for a <500 quid set of *carbon* wheels. Carbon faired alloy yes, but not carbon clinchers. Plus 50 quid delivery and an arguably lower spec groupset than the one from Px directly for 200 quid more - barking
Also wonder how he's selling 'new' planet x bikes when their entire business model is direct-to-market. In case you don't know, the Px bikes are 'open mould' - you can get 'exactly' the same frame from many other places i.e. looks same but the layup may be totally different, as may the quality control. You pay a bit more for it from planet x, and in return they back it with UK dealer support, warranty and someone to shout at.
Not sure why you'd pay more for a no-name alu than a no-name carbon either.. Inclined to think the PX is a solid bike for the money personally, if not the latest word in frame design (not that I'm convinced the latest word in frame design matters for much!).
upsidedownmark said:
Wouldn't touch the ebay one.
Carbon clinchers 'worth 799' despite the fact that they sell them new for 349, certainly aren't a 'known' manufacturer; almost certainly home branded chinese carbons - you can get decent wheels that route, but you have no idea what those particular ones actually are.
Besides, you don't want to live with carbon clinchers day in day out, and frankly I'm not sure I'd go for a <500 quid set of *carbon* wheels. Carbon faired alloy yes, but not carbon clinchers. Plus 50 quid delivery and an arguably lower spec groupset than the one from Px directly for 200 quid more - barking
Also wonder how he's selling 'new' planet x bikes when their entire business model is direct-to-market. In case you don't know, the Px bikes are 'open mould' - you can get 'exactly' the same frame from many other places i.e. looks same but the layup may be totally different, as may the quality control. You pay a bit more for it from planet x, and in return they back it with UK dealer support, warranty and someone to shout at.
Not sure why you'd pay more for a no-name alu than a no-name carbon either.. Inclined to think the PX is a solid bike for the money personally, if not the latest word in frame design (not that I'm convinced the latest word in frame design matters for much!).
Someone on here got a PX bike from the ebay seller recently. Apparently the ebay bike is sourced direct from PX via some business deal. The wheels are the same as the PX carbon clinchers, albeit with those naff stickers on.Carbon clinchers 'worth 799' despite the fact that they sell them new for 349, certainly aren't a 'known' manufacturer; almost certainly home branded chinese carbons - you can get decent wheels that route, but you have no idea what those particular ones actually are.
Besides, you don't want to live with carbon clinchers day in day out, and frankly I'm not sure I'd go for a <500 quid set of *carbon* wheels. Carbon faired alloy yes, but not carbon clinchers. Plus 50 quid delivery and an arguably lower spec groupset than the one from Px directly for 200 quid more - barking
Also wonder how he's selling 'new' planet x bikes when their entire business model is direct-to-market. In case you don't know, the Px bikes are 'open mould' - you can get 'exactly' the same frame from many other places i.e. looks same but the layup may be totally different, as may the quality control. You pay a bit more for it from planet x, and in return they back it with UK dealer support, warranty and someone to shout at.
Not sure why you'd pay more for a no-name alu than a no-name carbon either.. Inclined to think the PX is a solid bike for the money personally, if not the latest word in frame design (not that I'm convinced the latest word in frame design matters for much!).
Not worth £1200 as you can get the same bike from PX for £900 and carbon clinchers from ebay for under £300.
upsidedownmark said:
Not sure why you'd pay more for a no-name alu than a no-name carbon either.. Inclined to think the PX is a solid bike for the money personally, if not the latest word in frame design (not that I'm convinced the latest word in frame design matters for much!).
Not particularly no-name, but it is an entire kilo lighter and has a massive spec. Kyserium Elite S and that Syntace finishing kit must be worth the majority of the asking and a good alu frame is massively underrated.GaryGlitter said:
Someone on here got a PX bike from the ebay seller recently. Apparently the ebay bike is sourced direct from PX via some business deal.
Fair enough - I'm naturally suspicious and distrusting 
GaryGlitter said:
The wheels are the same as the PX carbon clinchers, albeit with those naff stickers on.
Not worth £1200 as you can get the same bike from PX for £900 and carbon clinchers from ebay for under £300.
Not these they're not - PX sell tubs and what they term 'carbon clinchers' which are actually an alloy rim with fairing like HED's or Flo's. These are a full 'structural' carbon wheel - rim/bead looks to be carbon and the nipples are threaded to the inside edge of the deep section.Not worth £1200 as you can get the same bike from PX for £900 and carbon clinchers from ebay for under £300.
If I was going to go for true carbons I'd want to *know* they were reputable - i.e. mainstream manufacturer, or possibly gigantex if from the far eastern route. Aside from sh*te braking it seems like it's quite hard to actually make true carbon clinchers work/handle the heat.
upsidedownmark said:
Not these they're not - PX sell tubs and what they term 'carbon clinchers' which are actually an alloy rim with fairing like HED's or Flo's. These are a full 'structural' carbon wheel - rim/bead looks to be carbon and the nipples are threaded to the inside edge of the deep section.
If I was going to go for true carbons I'd want to *know* they were reputable - i.e. mainstream manufacturer, or possibly gigantex if from the far eastern route. Aside from sh*te braking it seems like it's quite hard to actually make true carbon clinchers work/handle the heat.
Ok, PX used to sell carbon clinchers which are the same as these.If I was going to go for true carbons I'd want to *know* they were reputable - i.e. mainstream manufacturer, or possibly gigantex if from the far eastern route. Aside from sh*te braking it seems like it's quite hard to actually make true carbon clinchers work/handle the heat.
The CT45 is the carbo-alu clincher they now sell. Noisy buggers too.
The hubs look like Nova-Tec (which are supposed to be pretty good) so i dare say they're about £400 worth from China.
I'd be tempted by the ebay bike (or maybe the Apex equipt RT57 for £1200). I have both a SRAM bike and a Shimano 105 bike and if i had to make a choice i'd go SRAM (Providing one of the choices wasn't DI2).
I also ride carbon wheels in the summer and have done for 3 years now. With the exception of wet breaking theres not a lot in it. Saying that alloy rims aren't exactly amazing in the wet either.
Go with whichever floats your boat.
Might be a bit big but i'd take this over the other two.
http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p5473/CANNONDA...
I'd be tempted by the ebay bike (or maybe the Apex equipt RT57 for £1200). I have both a SRAM bike and a Shimano 105 bike and if i had to make a choice i'd go SRAM (Providing one of the choices wasn't DI2).
I also ride carbon wheels in the summer and have done for 3 years now. With the exception of wet breaking theres not a lot in it. Saying that alloy rims aren't exactly amazing in the wet either.
Go with whichever floats your boat.
Might be a bit big but i'd take this over the other two.
http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p5473/CANNONDA...
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