an honest opinion on porsche

an honest opinion on porsche

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alanpetts

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8 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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as a sports car enthusiast i have alwys loved porshe the early 911 and 928 and even the 914 are all timeles classics.in the last 10 years though i feel porshe have ran out of ideas`all they keep doing is recycling the 911 which in my opinion is now a bland car`if one drives down the street people dont even bother to look at it like they did the old 911 with the wide wheel arches and lovely spoiler on the back this car had a prescence about it`the new ones dont. then they bring out the boxster which sounds like my wifes hair dryer as is goes along the road? again a car with no aura about it. i am not critisising the build quality of porches just the styling. its just my honest opinion.

Basil Brush

5,196 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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I agree totally. The standard 996 looks boring compared to a 993. The shape just seems to have evolved too far and has lost all the features, like the bulging rear wings, which gave it the character.

domster

8,431 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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a lot of people on this forum won't disagree with you, but the techincal wizardry of a 996tt is still bound to impress

if you prefer the older porsches, you are in luck - they are often cheaper than the newer ones (I have a 1991 model myself)

Basil Brush

5,196 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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a lot of people on this forum won't disagree with you, but the techincal wizardry of a 996tt is still bound to impress



There's no denying that the 996 models are fantastic cars and are the benchmark others are judged by, they are just visually lacking in my eyes (like that matters!)

loudpedal

3,928 posts

274 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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Very true... but we've still got the Porsche off road Mumbly-wagon to look forward to

>> Edited by loudpedal on Thursday 8th August 15:00

Basil Brush

5,196 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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Very true... but we've still got the Porsche off road Mumbly-wagon to look forward to



You mean that hot rodded VW Tonka?

superlightr

12,899 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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As a new porsche 996 targa owner what the 996tt?? is that the turbo 996?

Any enlightenment gratefully received.
Is the 996 turbo single or double an hence the tt??

Chears ears.

James

Fatboy

8,055 posts

277 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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996 turbo has twin blowers, hence calling it the tt.

I think the 996tt is the best looking porsche ever - not that I don't love the other's, but It just looks so fluid, IMHO.

Whoozit

3,747 posts

274 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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996 turbo has twin blowers, hence calling it the tt.

I think the 996tt is the best looking porsche ever - not that I don't love the other's, but It just looks so fluid, IMHO.



I see your 996tt and raise you a yellow GT3

928GTS

6 posts

271 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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True, Porsche do 'recycle' and combine old models to develop and produce world class cars. Take the 928 as a great example: From 1977 to 1996, Porsche constantly developed and upgraded it, producing a final car which takes a lot of beating today.

Unfortunately one of the bad models was the Boxster: although this allowed a lot more people to be able to afford Porsche's, the external shape has been incorporated into the 911 (996), making the 996 less desirable: saying that, the 996 is a bit of a bargain being less than half the equivalent Ferrari or Aston (and a heck of a lot more reliable).

Lets hope the new Porsche GT doesn't follow the Boxster shape!

steve-p

1,448 posts

287 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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While I am not a fan of the Boxster's looks either, I think calling it "one of the bad models" might be a bit harsh!

I would go and test drive a Boxster S, but for the small point that it seems to have been designed by two different people, who both thought they were designing the front.

whammy819

13 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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Unfortunately, I must agree with "alanpeets".

I reached my limit this year when, looking into ordering a new 996 C4S, some of the "improved features" being touted for 2002 were a 12-speaker stereo system and better cup holders (!). And now they're building a truck (Cayenne)!

I'm now looking for a Lotus Esprit.
There are no cupholders in a Lotus.

Ultra Violent

2,827 posts

274 months

Thursday 8th August 2002
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You may also notice that TVR don't do cup holders. Apparently you have to be able to make a car first

douglasr

1,092 posts

277 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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I reached my limit this year when, looking into ordering a new 996 C4S, some of the "improved features" being touted for 2002 were a 12-speaker stereo system and better cup holders (!). And now they're building a truck (Cayenne)!



They are playing a tune for their biggest market - the USA. You cant blame them for that - it is merely good business practise. Porsche had big cash flow problems ten years ago, they are healthy now and can continue to develop great cars like the GT3 and 996 turbo alongside the "bread and butter" stuff.

Podie

46,642 posts

280 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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Well if there aren't any cup holders... how are the cars ever going to win anything in AutoExpress?!?!?

GregE240

10,857 posts

272 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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Good point Podie, although I doubt Porsche GB are that bothered. AE has always struck me as Autocar's poor cousin, blighted by faceless editorial and conjecture, with far too many pages devoted to spiel along the lines of "My 1991 Nissan Terrano makes a clonking noise when I turn right" bollocks and the like.

As you can tell, I'm not a fan !

domster

8,431 posts

275 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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Auto Express is the William Woollard of the car mag market. As you say, panders to rep car choice dilemma crew and single mums complaining about how sharp the tailgate catch is.

That said, they once reviewed a book I'd written and gave it five stars out of five, so they obviously know their onions

PS Lotus don't do cupholders in the Esprit because cups hadn't been invented when the S1 was launched. In fact, I don't think hot beverages had been invented either, as 'fire' was an innovation at around the time of the S2.

PPS What I'm saying is, IMHO you'd be daft to buy an Esprit. I looked into it before getting my RS, and even went around the factory. There's more modern technology in a Porsche toaster.

GregE240

10,857 posts

272 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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Ah, would that be "Colbeck's Guide to Servicing Your Lotus Carlton and Save £££'s" ?

The pride of place on every cardigan budding home mechanics coffee table, no doubt, Domster

Give Esprit a bit of credit as well mate - along with Range Rovers of yore they rid the parts bin of those hideous, mousetrap-esque door handles.

domster

8,431 posts

275 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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LOL

Its working title was:

'How to win friends at your Vauxhall dealer and influence your bank manager'



>> Edited by domster on Friday 9th August 11:24

superlightr

12,899 posts

268 months

Friday 9th August 2002
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As you say, panders to rep car choice dilemma crew and single mums complaining about how sharp the tailgate catch is.
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he he,

From bitter and painfull experience I hit my head on my Toyota's tail gate catch a few years back and I was fing and Blinding for the rest of the day.

At least the Porkers catch is rounded !!!

lol