I'm Converted - 1 x 10 set up. New Chain + Old Cassette = No
I'm Converted - 1 x 10 set up. New Chain + Old Cassette = No
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tjdixon911

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1,911 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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I completed the conversion of my 1x10 set up on my 29er last night and took it for its first run. The Groupset on the bike was just shy of 2k miles old, I replaced the front chain ring with a new 34t Narrow wide and thought I'd replace the chain to, big mistake, the new chain on the old cassette was jumping like anything.

I'm doing an XC Time Trial tomorrow night so need a solution, do I;

1. Put the old chain back on - Assuming this is more bedded to the cassette and the new Chainring will be more forgiving.
2. Try and find a new Cassette today, probably only chance of that will be Halfords and their stock/prices might not be what I want/need
3. I have a mates bike in my Garage with a 1-200 mile old Shimano cassette on it, do I "borrow" that - my Groupset is SRAM but assume they'd be compatible.

I was slowly replacing the whole Groupset, so the cassette was the next item on the list, I may just need it sooner than later.

Usget

5,426 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Can't help with stock but Halfords will price match Wiggle I think.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

SLX for £22? http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-dyna-sys-slx-10-sp...

tjdixon911

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266 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Usget said:
Can't help with stock but Halfords will price match Wiggle I think.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

SLX for £22? http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-dyna-sys-slx-10-sp...
Oh, my local halfords happen to have stock of one of them - it's not listed as SLX but is the CS-HG81 so assuming be the same?

Will this work ok with a Sram chain / rear mech?


Usget

5,426 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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As far as I know, they're interchangeable. I have a Shimano 9sp cassette with SRAM X5 derailleur and god knows what chain and it works OK.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

239 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Yes, Shimano and SRAM chains and cassettes work together. Enjoy your quiet easily cleaned less trouble drivetrain and half kilo saving thumbup




gazza285

11,134 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Just ditch all the gears and go single speed...

duff

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228 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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I'd consider XT if you're riding XC as you can add a 40/42 extender and remove 17t then change to 34 up front giving you more range.

BTW If you get SLX and you're bothered by weight, the only difference to XT is in the lock ring.

tjdixon911

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Wednesday 20th May 2015
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duff said:
I'd consider XT if you're riding XC as you can add a 40/42 extender and remove 17t then change to 34 up front giving you more range.

BTW If you get SLX and you're bothered by weight, the only difference to XT is in the lock ring.
The weight of my bike is the last thing I need to be worrying about! smile

I've gone for the SLX cassette, they were adamant that they wouldn't match internet prices (I've double checked and the should) I got my BC discount though so only a couple of £ out of pocket.


tjdixon911

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266 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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gazza285 said:
Just ditch all the gears and go single speed...
I have been thinking about this for a while, but feel to do it justice I should have a steel frame...

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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tjdixon911 said:
gazza285 said:
Just ditch all the gears and go single speed...
I have been thinking about this for a while, but feel to do it justice I should have a steel frame...
I've just gone 1x10 on my AM bike and I was struggling on some of the steeper inclines due to having a 36t Chain ring - I didn't want to go smaller as it's essentially a DH bike that gets pushed up/uplifted for 90% of my riding

I might need to stick an enormous sprocket on the rear to tackle the big climbs for that 10% when I do go out pedalling though.

tjdixon911

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1,911 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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All sorted - new cassette, new chain (back on), new gear cable - feels like new again, shifts nicely with no jumping.

Thanks for the advice.


marky911

4,433 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Nice bike, cool bus. That is all. smile

tjdixon911

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Wednesday 20th May 2015
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marky911 said:
Nice bike, cool bus. That is all. smile
Thanks, the bus is great, took me, my wife and bikes all round Europe last year, as far as Budapest and right through/over the alps.

Any excuse for a pic;


marky911

4,433 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Lovely. cloud9

I've always wanted a bay window or splittie. Best I could do was this T25 with a 2.5 Subaru Legacy motor in the back.



Did a similar trip, France, Switzerland, Italy in 2012. Would have loved to keep it but had other plans.
Never sell yours. You'd regret it. thumbup

More on mine in this thread, only if you're bored though. wink

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Anyway, sorry for the thread derail, I just can't resist a good bus. smile

tjdixon911

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1,911 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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marky911 said:
Lovely. cloud9

I've always wanted a bay window or splittie. Best I could do was this T25 with a 2.5 Subaru Legacy motor in the back.



Did a similar trip, France, Switzerland, Italy in 2012. Would have loved to keep it but had other plans.
Never sell yours. You'd regret it. thumbup

More on mine in this thread, only if you're bored though. wink

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Anyway, sorry for the thread derail, I just can't resist a good bus. smile
Nice, guess that's a little quicker than our 1600 TP engine!

We did Holland, Germany, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Austria, Italy, France, Germany, Holland (again), Belgium - home. It was slow going but we had 5months to do it smile

marky911

4,433 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Wow! That's an epic trip. Well done.

We didn't even have 5 weeks. I'd love to hit the road for that long. We've said we will definitely do it again in a few years.

Regarding speed, that's exactly why I hunted for a Subaru engined one but to be honest it still had the original gearbox which determines speed anyway, plus the shape of it meant it still didn't like being pushed through the air at much more than 80mph. Would do over 100mph but you got the feeling the gearbox wasn't having fun.

Hopefully a bay window next time so we have the proper look. cool


deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Mr Gearchange said:
I've just gone 1x10 on my AM bike and I was struggling on some of the steeper inclines due to having a 36t Chain ring - I didn't want to go smaller as it's essentially a DH bike that gets pushed up/uplifted for 90% of my riding
damn, where do you ride? My proper DH bike has a 32 tooth chainring and I've never run out of gears


Edited by deadtom on Thursday 21st May 12:11

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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deadtom said:
Mr Gearchange said:
I've just gone 1x10 on my AM bike and I was struggling on some of the steeper inclines due to having a 36t Chain ring - I didn't want to go smaller as it's essentially a DH bike that gets pushed up/uplifted for 90% of my riding
damn, where do you ride? My proper DH bike has a 32 tooth chainring and I've never run out of gears


Edited by deadtom on Thursday 21st May 12:11
Nowhere out of the ordinary, Aston Hill, Stile Cop, Woburn, Kinver Freeride, Bike Park Wales. I have a major fear of coming up short on the big gap jumps so more speed is the order of the day!

(however I do usually completely overshoot the landing transition)

deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Mr Gearchange said:
Nowhere out of the ordinary, Aston Hill, Stile Cop, Woburn, Kinver Freeride, Bike Park Wales. I have a major fear of coming up short on the big gap jumps so more speed is the order of the day!
fair enough, maybe it's just that my little legs mean i pedal faster than most