turbo failure at 16200 miles
turbo failure at 16200 miles
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lucky63

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29 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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hi all, the 997.2 engine might be bullet proof but the turbos aren't !! had a right hand turbo failure on my 2010 turbo cab, only got 16200 miles on it and was told the failure might be due to lack of use ! opc told me also to let the car run at idle for 40 secs or 1 min after every trip to get oil to the turbos.
car is out of warranty and it was a very very costly experience

lucky63

Original Poster:

29 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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it was news to me, guess people only tell you after the fact !

Shaoxter

4,501 posts

147 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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It's pretty common knowledge to never boot a turbo car (or any car for that matter) from cold, give it a good rev once per trip and to let it cool down for 1-2 mins...

Well now you know smile

FalconWood

1,371 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Shaoxter said:
It's pretty common knowledge to never boot a turbo car (or any car for that matter) from cold, give it a good rev once per trip and to let it cool down for 1-2 mins...

Well now you know smile

FalconWood

1,371 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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lucky63 said:
hi all, the 997.2 engine might be bullet proof but the turbos aren't !! had a right hand turbo failure on my 2010 turbo cab, only got 16200 miles on it and was told the failure might be due to lack of use ! opc told me also to let the car run at idle for 40 secs or 1 min after every trip to get oil to the turbos.
car is out of warranty and it was a very very costly experience
I did 17,000 on mine and the Porsche a Dealer reported my turbos were not properly functioning. He said mine was due to lack of use too (same year as yours and it is a cab). They managed to repair one with a bit of manual work and replace parts from the other but still £1500 bill - with a contribution from Porsche warranty. I think that is disappointing for such miles actually.

lucky63

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29 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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have never booted it from cold, always keep revs below 2k until oil normal operating temp, I might write to Porsche uk for some goodwill

mm450exc

571 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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They will all fail.

If your car is using oil check the intake for oil. Leaking turbo needs to be replaced. Had that on a 997.1 turbo I had a while ago.

LindsayMac

569 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Looks like OP needs to change his name

bing

1,943 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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mm450exc said:
They will all fail.

If your car is using oil check the intake for oil. Leaking turbo needs to be replaced. Had that on a 997.1 turbo I had a while ago.
How does one check the intake mate? Where is the intake? Any pics? Mine is a 997.1TT btw.

thanks

Pepsi Max 996T

43 posts

135 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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that's a lame excuse. I would say your mileage is typical for a cab. If I was you, I'd feel very hard done by. My 996tt is a 2004 and has only 20k on it. It did sit about for long periods as it came from a large collection. I've had to tend to a few items for this reason including a turbo wastegate but not the turbo itself. I wonder how common your issue is ?

mm450exc

571 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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bing said:
How does one check the intake mate? Where is the intake? Any pics? Mine is a 997.1TT btw.

thanks
Take the Y-Pipe off.

http://www.nineexcellence.com/performance/9ETuning...

Jonny TVR

4,548 posts

304 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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how costly was it?

mollytherocker

14,400 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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lucky63 said:
have never booted it from cold, always keep revs below 2k until oil normal operating temp, I might write to Porsche uk for some goodwill
Have you had it since new? The previous owner may have ragged it from cold and generally abused it. How many oil changes have you had? Turbo engines kill oil and then it becomes less effective.

And of course, many nearly new OPC cars are ex PEC.

Wozy68

5,435 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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mollytherocker said:
lucky63 said:
have never booted it from cold, always keep revs below 2k until oil normal operating temp, I might write to Porsche uk for some goodwill
Have you had it since new? The previous owner may have ragged it from cold and generally abused it. How many oil changes have you had? Turbo engines kill oil and then it becomes less effective.

And of course, many nearly new OPC cars are ex PEC.
Booted from cold? confused

I thought with turbos more harm was caused to them if you just switched the engine off without letting the engine idle, which starved the turbos of oil as they spun down?

mollytherocker

14,400 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Wozy68 said:
Booted from cold? confused

I thought with turbos more harm was caused to them if you just switched the engine off without letting the engine idle, which starved the turbos of oil as they spun down?
Yes thats true although modern synthetics have a wider operating window and so its less of an issue than it was.

Booting from cold is bad on a turbo as the oil is still 'thick' and the turbo itself is not at its operating temperature, ie, its tight.

GregorFuk

578 posts

223 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Regardless of how it's treated I'd expect a turbo to go for longer than 16k. I'd be hoping to get closer to 80k before I even begin to worry that they may go pop. Unless of course the car has been remapped and the boost upped, if that's the case then all bets are off.

lucky63

Original Poster:

29 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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2nd owner, bought it when it was 7 months old with 2k on the clock, have no idea how the 1st owner looked after it. have only had oil changed at the regular service interval. (should it be changed every year ?)
cost for the new turbo/water line/pressure line/sensor and labour £4249.88 (they threw in a free valet because I spent so much money !!!)

mollytherocker

14,400 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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A free valet? Thats pretty funny.

Rockster

1,515 posts

183 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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lucky63 said:
it was news to me, guess people only tell you after the fact !
The recommendation to let the engine idle a bit -- 2 minutes I think -- is in the owners manual.

The turbo failed at 16K miles. That's a new car failure. Which is not surprising the car is a new car, at least based on miles. I do not know what the warranty is there but in the USA the warranty is 4 years, 50K miles.

In my opinion any problem that happens in under the new car warranty miles is a new car problem and had the car been driven more while under warranty this problem would have been dealt with under warranty.

A low mile used car is always a bit of a gamble if there is no (extended) warranty.

I bought my 2003 Turbo in 2009 with just 10K miles on it. The car came with a CPO warranty, 2 years, 100K miles. The CPO warranty came in damn handy. Among other things it covered a new tranny. The original one developed a leak and was replaced with a new one from the factory.


lucky63

Original Poster:

29 posts

155 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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warranty on a new car in UK is 3 years, did not extend the warranty as I fitted a europipe exhaust 18 months ago. (car first registered june 2010)
lets see if Porsche uk can help with some goodwill - watch this space