Pump wont get over 85psi
Pump wont get over 85psi
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MysteryLemon

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4,968 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I've got a halfords double cylinder foot pump. Nothing special but done the job perfectly for me the last few years.

I recently changed the tyres on my commuter as the old ones were wearing thin. Old ones were 700x25. New ones are 700x23.

Since fitting the new tyres, the pump will not go any higher than 85psi. It gets there and then you can pump the pedal but can tell nothing is going into the tyre. Theres a lot of resistance right at the bottom of the pedal where it would usually be forcing air in. It's as if the pump just doesn't have the might to push any more air in, but had no issue when the older tyres were on there (100psi + was no issue).

Is it just a coincidence that I'm having this problem with changing the tyres and the pump is knackered or would the change to the thinner tyres mean I need a stronger pump? Doesn't make sense in my head but who knows?

Any advice?

The Walrus

1,857 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Boyles law is what you are experiencing get a better pump

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Did you change the tubes at the same time? I didn't think that skinny road tubes came with car type (schraeder) valves, and I didn't think car type footpumps came with presta (road) valves, or the ability to get to 100psi?

I'd be inclined to get a sensible track pump and be done with it personally, right tool for the job, but does sound odd.

beanbag

7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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MysteryLemon said:
I've got a halfords double cylinder foot pump. Nothing special but done the job perfectly for me the last few years.

I recently changed the tyres on my commuter as the old ones were wearing thin. Old ones were 700x25. New ones are 700x23.

Since fitting the new tyres, the pump will not go any higher than 85psi. It gets there and then you can pump the pedal but can tell nothing is going into the tyre. Theres a lot of resistance right at the bottom of the pedal where it would usually be forcing air in. It's as if the pump just doesn't have the might to push any more air in, but had no issue when the older tyres were on there (100psi + was no issue).

Is it just a coincidence that I'm having this problem with changing the tyres and the pump is knackered or would the change to the thinner tyres mean I need a stronger pump? Doesn't make sense in my head but who knows?

Any advice?
Advice? You need a new pump:

One of these will serve you a lifetime:


j00pY

335 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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^ Indeed it will. I use mine for my motorbike and car tires too as its less of a faff then driving to the garage.

MysteryLemon

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4,968 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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upsidedownmark said:
Did you change the tubes at the same time? I didn't think that skinny road tubes came with car type (schraeder) valves, and I didn't think car type footpumps came with presta (road) valves, or the ability to get to 100psi?

I'd be inclined to get a sensible track pump and be done with it personally, right tool for the job, but does sound odd.
Yup, I changed the tubes at the same time. I use a valve converter on the pump so I can use it for the schraeder valve. Never had any issue getting 100+ PSI with is before changing the tyres.

What advantage does a track pump offer over a foot pump? Don't really want something that massive if I don't need it.

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Ditto, although I reckon these are better wink

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lezyne-steel-floor-drive-a...

russ

254 posts

313 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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take the plunge get a track pump and you will never regret it

Black can man

31,973 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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russ said:
take the plunge get a track pump and you will never regret it
This /\ /\

RicharDC5

4,194 posts

156 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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upsidedownmark said:
Ditto, although I reckon these are better wink

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lezyne-steel-floor-drive-a...
^ that. I have this one http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-performance-high-... which is a few quid cheaper.

Foot pumps are crap by comparison

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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MysteryLemon said:
Yup, I changed the tubes at the same time. I use a valve converter on the pump so I can use it for the schraeder valve. Never had any issue getting 100+ PSI with is before changing the tyres.

What advantage does a track pump offer over a foot pump? Don't really want something that massive if I don't need it.
OK - was wondering if it was an issue with the valve fit.

Honestly never tried using a foot pump. My take would be that they're designed to shift a lot of air at low pressure for a car tyre which requires a lot of volume, whereas a bike tyre is rather the opposite (low volume, high pressure). Might be worth borrowing a track pump to see if that resolves the issue.

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Foot oumps - good for getting large volumes into tyres at lower pressures.
Track pumps - better at getting smaller volumes of air into tyres at higher pressures.

Mine was a tenner from either aldi or lidl. Does a great job, 26 pumps from totally flat to 110 psi. What's not to like?

chr15b

3,467 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I also have the joe blow pump, it's really good!

Fluffsri

3,410 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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I must have had a friday afternoon Joe Blow as mine was awful. The hose cracked and it ended up about 8" long, the base fell off, the gauge wouldnt go past 50psi and the nail in the coffin was the end fitting fell to peices. To replace it I bought a Backburn, Ive had it roughly the sametime as the JB and its faultless. Ive got one of these as well, cracking bit of kit for travelling Lyzene micro floor.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lezyne-micro-floor-drive-h...

Edited by Fluffsri on Thursday 23 April 09:45

option click

1,178 posts

255 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Same here, my Joe Blow didn't last long.
Bought a Specialized track pump to replace it around five years ago and it's worked perfectly.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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My old double cylinder foot pump had the same problem. Bought a track pump and problem solved.

jrb43

906 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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The Walrus said:
Boyles law is what you are experiencing get a better pump
Or put it in an ice bucket wink

jrb43

906 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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The Walrus said:
Boyles law is what you are experiencing get a better pump
Or put it in an ice bucket wink

JuniorD

9,013 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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I can top up my car tyres from 28-33 psi quicker with a track pump than my 12V compressor. Plus, it's miles quieter. As for footpumps...I've never experienced one that didn't go all shonky after a year or two or didn't slip and remove shin flesh.

budgie smuggler

6,054 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Fluffsri said:
I must have had a friday afternoon Joe Blow as mine was awful. The hose cracked and it ended up about 8" long, the base fell off, the gauge wouldnt go past 50psi and the nail in the coffin was the end fitting fell to peices. To replace it I bought a Backburn, Ive had it roughly the sametime as the JB and its faultless. ]
Plus one on that.