Buying new...how to negotiate?
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Had a demo ride today on a bike in the £1700 region and loved it. I plan to ride at least two others so no decision is made yet, but loved the one today to. I asked the guy if there was any room to negotiate and he said not on the bike but maybe on accessories. I ride a lot, so don't really need anything. Will go back to the shop when I have tried the others but any advice on how to play it? The bike in question can be got on the Internet but no less than the rrp in the shop.
Ask if you get a discount for your British Cycling membership, you might be surprised how many places give you something off for that.
My framebuilding company offers a pretty good discount to members of a cycle club who promise to race the frame we make for them, so that might be worth investigating also- especially if there is a club associated with the shop that you could join.
My framebuilding company offers a pretty good discount to members of a cycle club who promise to race the frame we make for them, so that might be worth investigating also- especially if there is a club associated with the shop that you could join.
Its a Spesh isnt it?
If correct they resolutely will not allow anybody to discount at threat of losing their contract
I know people who have got 10% of the value in accessories, but never anything off the cost of a Specialized bike itself
Other manufacturers - deals aplenty, theres a recession on you know!
numtumfutunch said:
Its a Spesh isnt it?
If correct they resolutely will not allow anybody to discount at threat of losing their contract
I know people who have got 10% of the value in accessories, but never anything off the cost of a Specialized bike itself
Other manufacturers - deals aplenty, theres a recession on you know!
10% off accessories at a bike shop is fairly pointless as Wiggle/CRC will be probably be cheaper anyway! If correct they resolutely will not allow anybody to discount at threat of losing their contract
I know people who have got 10% of the value in accessories, but never anything off the cost of a Specialized bike itself
Other manufacturers - deals aplenty, theres a recession on you know!
I think Evans offer £100-£100 of free accessories when you buy new bikes or a certain value. Thats certainly a good deal, but only if you need the accessories.
bakerstreet said:
10% off accessories at a bike shop is fairly pointless as Wiggle/CRC will be probably be cheaper anyway!
I think Evans offer £100-£100 of free accessories when you buy new bikes or a certain value. Thats certainly a good deal, but only if you need the accessories.
You misunderstandI think Evans offer £100-£100 of free accessories when you buy new bikes or a certain value. Thats certainly a good deal, but only if you need the accessories.
10% OF the value ie 170 squids worth of accessories of your choice for gratis in this case
Where is the OP, what bike, and what bike shop?
They can make a big difference to the potential for a deal. I'm looking at a Trek Emonda at the moment. The price differential on those 'price spy' type websites was 0% the other day. That means there are no retailers charging a little more, nor any discounting the bike, save for Rutland Cycles, where you can save a single penny off the £2,300 asking price. The average variance on bikes is about 5.5% between retailers, but with the big players like Specialized/Trek/Cannondale trying to pin prices at a fixed level, the variance will likely be greater on makes/models where retailers have more autonomy with regard to price setting.
I've put a deposit down on the Trek in what I believe is the right size, and the shop does a points scheme where you earn a point for every £50 you spend on a new (undiscounted, full retail price) bicycle. They then have a dual price tag on accessories, giving a price in points or £. The scheme can be had on both t'internet and in the bricks'n'mortar shop, and is worth around 20% to 25% of the cost of the bike. This, of course, is based on their accessory price, and the full shop price which differs from the internet price in many cases, but it's still quite generous. There was a sideways whisper of 10% off the Emonda in place of the points when I was discussing the purchase, but I need the gear and the points deal is worth well in excess of £230 off the price of the bike.
Back in 2010 when I last bought a bike (from a small local independant shop) I paid £1234 for the bike and a bunch of gear, including pedals/shoes/waterproof jacket/bottle/bottle cage. It worked out as a 24% discount across the board, but that was an October (end of season) purchase, so the bike was already discounted from it's £1530 RRP by the manufacurer/distributor. Now, to be honest, is not the best time of the year to be asking for a discount on a new (current season) bike. Stores are ramping up for a peak period of sales as folk buy new bikes and replace older clothing, as well as dragging bikes out to be serviced and have components replaced ready for the new season. Be wary though. Some bikes/models are already hard to come by, having been test winners in the cycling press and sold well, and others (Fuji Transonic at Evans being one example) won't be available until April/May. There are bargains galore to be had, though, on previous season models, providing you can source one in a suitable size...
They can make a big difference to the potential for a deal. I'm looking at a Trek Emonda at the moment. The price differential on those 'price spy' type websites was 0% the other day. That means there are no retailers charging a little more, nor any discounting the bike, save for Rutland Cycles, where you can save a single penny off the £2,300 asking price. The average variance on bikes is about 5.5% between retailers, but with the big players like Specialized/Trek/Cannondale trying to pin prices at a fixed level, the variance will likely be greater on makes/models where retailers have more autonomy with regard to price setting.
I've put a deposit down on the Trek in what I believe is the right size, and the shop does a points scheme where you earn a point for every £50 you spend on a new (undiscounted, full retail price) bicycle. They then have a dual price tag on accessories, giving a price in points or £. The scheme can be had on both t'internet and in the bricks'n'mortar shop, and is worth around 20% to 25% of the cost of the bike. This, of course, is based on their accessory price, and the full shop price which differs from the internet price in many cases, but it's still quite generous. There was a sideways whisper of 10% off the Emonda in place of the points when I was discussing the purchase, but I need the gear and the points deal is worth well in excess of £230 off the price of the bike.
Back in 2010 when I last bought a bike (from a small local independant shop) I paid £1234 for the bike and a bunch of gear, including pedals/shoes/waterproof jacket/bottle/bottle cage. It worked out as a 24% discount across the board, but that was an October (end of season) purchase, so the bike was already discounted from it's £1530 RRP by the manufacurer/distributor. Now, to be honest, is not the best time of the year to be asking for a discount on a new (current season) bike. Stores are ramping up for a peak period of sales as folk buy new bikes and replace older clothing, as well as dragging bikes out to be serviced and have components replaced ready for the new season. Be wary though. Some bikes/models are already hard to come by, having been test winners in the cycling press and sold well, and others (Fuji Transonic at Evans being one example) won't be available until April/May. There are bargains galore to be had, though, on previous season models, providing you can source one in a suitable size...
Daveyraveygravey said:
It's not Spesh...! It is a rival for the Fuji Transonic though so a bit sad that isn't available for two months.
Check stock on the Fuji, before you give up on it!In the size I want, the "in stock" date is given as 27/05/2015, but in some of the larger sizes, and even the 'Mr Average' sizes, there is availability on some of the builds now, according to the Evans website. Other builds and sizes have "in stock" dates varying from 'In Stock' through 'Delivered in 10 days', 27/03/2015 and 19/05/15 to 27/05/2015 and in one case (which may well be a data-entry error) 23/07/2015.
I am on the border between a 49cm and a 52cm for the Transonic, but no bikes of either size are available yet for the purposes of getting sized up, hence why I've switched fire to the Trek Emonda SL 6 (in red), where I've found that despite most online sizing tools suggesting I need a 50cm frame, a lengthy 'try it on the turbo' session at Pedal On in Tadley found that the geometry of the 52cm frame feels more 'right' for me.
It's a shame, as I'm really taken with the curve in the 'seat tube' and the 'aero' shield around the rear brake on the Fuji, along with some nice colour choices. Still, the Emonda is by no means hideous, and I've not found any negative reviews of it yet. Should be in the shop midweek, and hopefully I can test ride it ASAP. If that goes well, it'll be bought on the spot, as I'm chewing my elbows with frustration at being without a bike right now
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