Anyone here own an F40?
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I can't help question why someone would buy an F40 now.
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
Gt2man-2 said:
I can't help question why someone would buy an F40 now.
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
Ah but to be honest that's the outlook of many people to sportscars in general: "They're expensive to maintain, break down more often, you can't get the dogs/shopping in - why would you want one over a mondeo?"
Why an F40? Childhood dream? Presence?
If I had serious cash I'd look into it!
Phil
Gt2man-2 said:
I can't help question why someone would buy an F40 now.
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
There's a RHD one in existence somewhere, in grey.
I suspect you'd have to experience one before pronouncing judgement. Cutting edge, psuedo-race tech Ferrari from circa 1990 is going to be interesting, even today.
derestrictor said:
I can't help question why someone would buy an F40 now.
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
There's a RHD one in existence somewhere, in grey.
I suspect you'd have to experience one before pronouncing judgement. Cutting edge, psuedo-race tech Ferrari from circa 1990 is going to be interesting, even today.
Simon,
i think this is an ex-Sultan car which has recently been repainted-back to resale red- and retrimmed. I believe Talacrest had it in it's unrestored state .
tonyhopkins said:
Gt2man-2 said:
I can't help question why someone would buy an F40 now.
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
There's a RHD one in existence somewhere, in grey.
I suspect you'd have to experience one before pronouncing judgement. Cutting edge, psuedo-race tech Ferrari from circa 1990 is going to be interesting, even today.
Simon,
i think this is an ex-Sultan car which has recently been repainted-back to resale red- and retrimmed. I believe Talacrest had it in it's unrestored state .
The car in question is looked after by a friend of mine. I have seen it a few times now and she is absolutely lovely. It was at one point Argento Nurburgring with I believe Grey leather seats. But is now Rosso with Red Cloth.
The reason people would buy an F40 is because I cannot think of one footballer that has got one!
That is reason enough for me!
Oh that and the fact that an F40 is and always will be a legend whereas I cannot see an F430 ever being seen in the same light. I'm sure that the 430 is a 'better' car but since when do you buy a Ferrari for purely logical reasons?
I think that Elms' F40 should be with him in the next week or so and having seen pics that he e-mailed to me it really looks superb and knocks spots off any modern Fezza.
All imho obviously
That is reason enough for me!
Oh that and the fact that an F40 is and always will be a legend whereas I cannot see an F430 ever being seen in the same light. I'm sure that the 430 is a 'better' car but since when do you buy a Ferrari for purely logical reasons?
I think that Elms' F40 should be with him in the next week or so and having seen pics that he e-mailed to me it really looks superb and knocks spots off any modern Fezza.
All imho obviously
Imho, an F40 is very much classic, in the meaningful sense of the word by virtue of it's sheer single mindedness of design.
The famously thin paint and exposed carbon fibre weave; the inetrior minimalism and frankly, brutal external prescence and, er...the pace!
Truly, one of the all time greats and although Martin Brundle agreed with sentiments above viz a vis the apparent age of the car ito contemporary, hyper car dynamics, it was hardly un-engaging.
I remember driving (what may have been a fairly tired and abused) 308 on one of those 'Ferrari Experience' airfield days at Prestwold Hall a couple of years ago and despite it's obvious ergonomic shortcomings, not to mention brakes which frankly didn't, it was nevertheless a superb drive - great noise, nicely poised through the bendies and altogether very much an 'event car.'
How much more so, then, the utterly sublime F40?
Elms is indeed on the brink of living many a PHer's fantasy.
So
to him! Marvellous. 
The famously thin paint and exposed carbon fibre weave; the inetrior minimalism and frankly, brutal external prescence and, er...the pace!
Truly, one of the all time greats and although Martin Brundle agreed with sentiments above viz a vis the apparent age of the car ito contemporary, hyper car dynamics, it was hardly un-engaging.
I remember driving (what may have been a fairly tired and abused) 308 on one of those 'Ferrari Experience' airfield days at Prestwold Hall a couple of years ago and despite it's obvious ergonomic shortcomings, not to mention brakes which frankly didn't, it was nevertheless a superb drive - great noise, nicely poised through the bendies and altogether very much an 'event car.'
How much more so, then, the utterly sublime F40?
Elms is indeed on the brink of living many a PHer's fantasy.
So
to him! Marvellous. Elms can I come for a ride and fulfill a childhood dream. (OK so I was actually 21 when the F40 was released)
Are they worth £170k now? I remember John Pullicino (where IS he now?) trying to sell his own car from his showroom for £110k back in 1998.
I also recall Lancaster Colchester carrying out a fuel tank replacement on Liam Howlett's old F40 - a £10,000 job apparently that has to be carried out every 10 years!
IMHO the F40 is THE perfect blend of classic and supercar IMHO - so much more characterful than a 959
can I come for a ride and fulfill a childhood dream. (OK so I was actually 21 when the F40 was released) Are they worth £170k now? I remember John Pullicino (where IS he now?) trying to sell his own car from his showroom for £110k back in 1998.
I also recall Lancaster Colchester carrying out a fuel tank replacement on Liam Howlett's old F40 - a £10,000 job apparently that has to be carried out every 10 years!
IMHO the F40 is THE perfect blend of classic and supercar IMHO - so much more characterful than a 959
As Elms knows all too well the F40 is, to me, one of the greatest Ferrari's of all time and without doubt THE best supercar to come out of any factory gates be it Modena, Stuttgart etc etc.
It's just the whole sense of purpose and drama from one, even when standing still, that does it for me.
It may not be the fastest car in the world (my R400 was lapping quicker than a well driven F40 at Brands last year) but that doesn't matter. Just look at it ffs, who would dare build such an undiluted, raw, built to a purpose Supercar today? It has no nannying electronics to dilute the experience, just you and 478bhp controlled by your right foot,
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................heaven!
It's just the whole sense of purpose and drama from one, even when standing still, that does it for me.
It may not be the fastest car in the world (my R400 was lapping quicker than a well driven F40 at Brands last year) but that doesn't matter. Just look at it ffs, who would dare build such an undiluted, raw, built to a purpose Supercar today? It has no nannying electronics to dilute the experience, just you and 478bhp controlled by your right foot,
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................heaven!
Gt2man-2 said:A well specced and set-up Ultima for under £70k new will out-everything your Ford GT, Porker GT2 or probably any road car you've ever owned (I don't mean to be nasty or anything like that; I'm just stating what is probably fact. Please correct me if I'm wrong), and with comfort, build quality, air-con and any electronic gizmos you care to spec to boot.
I can't help question why someone would buy an F40 now.
Perhaps I'm being too logical (the last thing you should be when considering a Ferrari) but they're LHD.. slower than an F430.. heinously expensive to maintain and have mechanicals nearly 20yrs old..
Why would someone pay £170K+ for one ?
Even so, why buy the Ford? Why a Porsche when pure normally aspirated (or blown) mega horsepower and much quickler lap times can be had from something half the price?
Brand perhaps? Legacy? The joy of being in something others recognise as exclusive? Soul?
I think an F40 is one of the finest shining examples of 80s supercar excess. May it live on forever, and I applaud anyone who buys one.
Horses for courses.
D
The value of F40's has shot up in the last few years. You used to be able to pick them up for around £130k but need to add at least £40K to that figure now.
Ferrari were only intending to produce about 300 but ended up building 1,300 odd due to demand so it must be special.
The running costs are hideous though. The fuel tanks are actually bags which can perish with age so need to be replaced.
Also the rear clamshell incorporating the rear wing is £18K to replace.
No point tracking them though. It's too expensive and as has been said you would be a lot quicker and have more fun in a £30K Caterham.
Awesome car though
Ferrari were only intending to produce about 300 but ended up building 1,300 odd due to demand so it must be special.
The running costs are hideous though. The fuel tanks are actually bags which can perish with age so need to be replaced.
Also the rear clamshell incorporating the rear wing is £18K to replace.
No point tracking them though. It's too expensive and as has been said you would be a lot quicker and have more fun in a £30K Caterham.
Awesome car though
-DeaDLocK- said:
I think an F40 is one of the finest shining examples of 80s supercar excess. May it live on forever, and I applaud anyone who buys one.
Let's pick hairs here....I totally agree with your posting Deadlock except in one area...the F40 wasn't an example of '80s excess in the way that the EB110 most definitely was. The F40 really was an example of form following function - no gadgetry, no unnecessary addenda or engineering for the sake of showboating and the car acutally had a distinguished competition history in the late '80s/early '90s - I recall several Michelotti cars holding their own at Le Mans (the blue Pilot car springs to mind) and as late as the mid '90s when the Mclaren F1 was sweeping all before it.
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