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Ok, the title is a little dramatic but I’m still pssed off!
Hello.
This morning I’m cycling my usual route through my village to work. I spot a chap walking his dog, I’m guessing it’s a sheep dog cross of some sort; the dog is darting ahead of its owner, turning and squatting down looking back. I don’t take too much notice but as I cycle past the dog gives chase, the owner shouts and I carry on cycling.
I don’t think too much of it until it bites me, he didn’t break skin but I have a bruised leg! I shout fck off at it and shout at the owner to get him on a lead. I carry on cycling but the dog is all over barking and nipping, I seriously contemplate kicking it in the face but I stop and shout at the dog to ‘come here’ and cycle back to the owner.
He grabs the dog, he doesn’t have a lead and he doesn’t have too much to say.
Could I have handled it better, I perhaps shouldn’t have sworn as loudly but it was a bit of a shock. How the hell do I deal with this sort of situation, why are some dog owners feckless knobs.
Hello.
This morning I’m cycling my usual route through my village to work. I spot a chap walking his dog, I’m guessing it’s a sheep dog cross of some sort; the dog is darting ahead of its owner, turning and squatting down looking back. I don’t take too much notice but as I cycle past the dog gives chase, the owner shouts and I carry on cycling.
I don’t think too much of it until it bites me, he didn’t break skin but I have a bruised leg! I shout fck off at it and shout at the owner to get him on a lead. I carry on cycling but the dog is all over barking and nipping, I seriously contemplate kicking it in the face but I stop and shout at the dog to ‘come here’ and cycle back to the owner.
He grabs the dog, he doesn’t have a lead and he doesn’t have too much to say.
Could I have handled it better, I perhaps shouldn’t have sworn as loudly but it was a bit of a shock. How the hell do I deal with this sort of situation, why are some dog owners feckless knobs.
Don't kick the dog, nor shout at it. It's not the dog's fault that it's either badly trained or poorly controlled (or both). Those faults lie with the owner. Next time, kick him instead. As I understand it, there are new, stronger laws about keeping a dog under control in public. It really pisses me off when I see dogs off the lead on/near public roads.
A couple of days ago it wasn't so much being attacked, as having to stop because the entire path was blocked by no less than 9 Pugs, none of which was under the direct control of either of the two women walking them, each of whom was further exacerbating the situation because they were both pushing buggies and (horror of horrors!) they were walking two-abreast!
A week or so ago it was three stupid little 'toy' dogs walked by a grumpy old man. Two of the daft beasts came tearing toward me, and tried to savage my ankles and the tyres of the bike, chasing behind me, one on each side. Then the third joined in from dead ahead, forcing me to stop. As I put a foot down I trod on the dog to my left, causing it to yelp and run off, at which point the old man began to berate me...
...I just snarled something about getting his 'Ewoks' on leads if he couldn't control them on a bridleway, where it was not unreasonable to expect to meet a cyclist. As I rode off he was alternately muttering something under his breath at/about me, and soothing his 'baby'. Logically, if the stupid arse had kept control of the dogs, I wouldn't have needed to stop, and even if I had, I wouldn't have trodden on his precious Bichon Frisé.
A couple of days ago it wasn't so much being attacked, as having to stop because the entire path was blocked by no less than 9 Pugs, none of which was under the direct control of either of the two women walking them, each of whom was further exacerbating the situation because they were both pushing buggies and (horror of horrors!) they were walking two-abreast!
A week or so ago it was three stupid little 'toy' dogs walked by a grumpy old man. Two of the daft beasts came tearing toward me, and tried to savage my ankles and the tyres of the bike, chasing behind me, one on each side. Then the third joined in from dead ahead, forcing me to stop. As I put a foot down I trod on the dog to my left, causing it to yelp and run off, at which point the old man began to berate me...
...I just snarled something about getting his 'Ewoks' on leads if he couldn't control them on a bridleway, where it was not unreasonable to expect to meet a cyclist. As I rode off he was alternately muttering something under his breath at/about me, and soothing his 'baby'. Logically, if the stupid arse had kept control of the dogs, I wouldn't have needed to stop, and even if I had, I wouldn't have trodden on his precious Bichon Frisé.
Wait till one of the little buggers puts its head through a bladed spoke wheel at any speed.....
Seriously though I've been fortunate enough not to have had any issues beyond the usual muppets with dogs roaming here there and everywhere on long leads, knowing a good plan for dealing with them might be handy.
Let alone the bigger ones....
Seriously though I've been fortunate enough not to have had any issues beyond the usual muppets with dogs roaming here there and everywhere on long leads, knowing a good plan for dealing with them might be handy.
Let alone the bigger ones....
yellowjack said:
Don't kick the dog, nor shout at it. It's not the dog's fault that it's either badly trained or poorly controlled (or both). Those faults lie with the owner. Next time, kick him instead. As I understand it, there are new, stronger laws about keeping a dog under control in public. It really pisses me off when I see dogs off the lead on/near public roads.
What do you suggest the OP does, go over to the owner with the dog attached to his leg and kick the owner?? In a serious situation, you'd have every right to do what you could to get the dog off. If I was in the OP's situation, I would pick up dog's back legs. If memory serves this upsets their balance and throws them off their game and hopefully the leg!
Failing that, throw some abuse at the owner and threaten to report accordingly. I've watched it happen and the person in question took the details from the tag and the owner soon leashed the dog and made a hasty retreat.
Moral of the story, accelerate faster so you can lose the dog!
Keen cyclist and keen dog owner, I can often see both sides
When I am on the shared paths, (very occasionally I try and stay away from bikes) with my dogs, I'm amazed at how fast bikes past us, swerve round, with no warning or bells , had one guy ride into my misses before, the dogs were on lead and she was stopped
I came up across the same dogs every morning on my commute, they hated bikes, I'd give the owner a warning hello and try not to surprise the dogs and past them slowly.
I have had it before where I have passed slowly other dogs and they have chased me!
I would have kicked the dog off , I wouldn't have let it bit me, my Collie (sheep dog) would nip if we didn't train him and he senses when people are not going to retaliate so walks over them, but Ive been bitten before by other dogs years ago and did nothing like the OP, often its surprise
Pretty scary really, as my dog nipped someone years ago, from then on I was very very careful and trained him not to do it again, if you were a kid it could get messy .
It is easy for dogs to get scared by sudden surprises and lash out, it doesn't make it right and they shouldn't but its always worth bearing in mind when you come up behind them
Keen cyclist and keen dog owner, I can often see both sides
When I am on the shared paths, (very occasionally I try and stay away from bikes) with my dogs, I'm amazed at how fast bikes past us, swerve round, with no warning or bells , had one guy ride into my misses before, the dogs were on lead and she was stopped
I came up across the same dogs every morning on my commute, they hated bikes, I'd give the owner a warning hello and try not to surprise the dogs and past them slowly.
I have had it before where I have passed slowly other dogs and they have chased me!
I would have kicked the dog off , I wouldn't have let it bit me, my Collie (sheep dog) would nip if we didn't train him and he senses when people are not going to retaliate so walks over them, but Ive been bitten before by other dogs years ago and did nothing like the OP, often its surprise
Pretty scary really, as my dog nipped someone years ago, from then on I was very very careful and trained him not to do it again, if you were a kid it could get messy .
It is easy for dogs to get scared by sudden surprises and lash out, it doesn't make it right and they shouldn't but its always worth bearing in mind when you come up behind them
bakerstreet said:
yellowjack said:
Don't kick the dog, nor shout at it. It's not the dog's fault that it's either badly trained or poorly controlled (or both). Those faults lie with the owner. Next time, kick him instead. As I understand it, there are new, stronger laws about keeping a dog under control in public. It really pisses me off when I see dogs off the lead on/near public roads.
What do you suggest the OP does, go over to the owner with the dog attached to his leg and kick the owner?? In a serious situation, you'd have every right to do what you could to get the dog off. If I was in the OP's situation, I would pick up dog's back legs. If memory serves this upsets their balance and throws them off their game and hopefully the leg!
Failing that, throw some abuse at the owner and threaten to report accordingly. I've watched it happen and the person in question took the details from the tag and the owner soon leashed the dog and made a hasty retreat.
knitware said:
Thanks for the replies. It was a shock at the time but hopefully the owner thinks about his duty of care and gives the dog some training and obedience classes. I can brush off the incident but I think a child, this happened near a school, couldn’t.
Unlikely he will improve his 'duty of care'. Sound like an idiot to me [dog owner] - I wouldn't have been best pleased.
Can't really blame the dog as it is the owner's duty to keep it in check.
A good friend of mine has a few dogs and his method of keeping them in check was rather harsh but they are some of the most 'obedient' dogs I have ever seen.
Don't even get me started on dogs and children. I've lost count on the number of times I have had to pick up my son and keep him out of harms way!
Make sure you go past next time in full time trial mode at 60+KPH
TwistingMyMelon said:
Moral of the story, accelerate faster so you can lose the dog!
What happens if you get attacked by greyhound? 
(unlikley, unless you cycle in a rabbit outfit), Even a retired one is good for 40mph in 4m flat. Even Wiggo couldn't manage that Saying that ours has about 3 minutes running in him and after that hes knackered! Fastpedeller said:
There was something about disabling a dog on TV a few weeks ago - apparently the most effective way is to put your finger up the dog's anus!
Guaranteed to work every time!- Think I'd prefer to kick it personally.
If its a life or death situation (Minor/child), then a swift kick in the sensitive parts of in the middle of the chest will do the trick. Easy to sit here on the sofa and type it, but I can imagine its tricky in real life....Guaranteed to work every time!- Think I'd prefer to kick it personally.
I had a terrier bite me Christmas day last year, went out for a morning ride and was going through the local golf course on a road that doubles as a public right of way.
There was a family out for a walk on the actual fairway when the dog decided to chase me is topped pedalling wasn't going fast anyway but he kept trying to jump at me from the left. The owner eventually shouted (probably more to do with the dog getting further away than it bothering me) and it disappeared I start to pedal off from the crawl next thing from the right BITE I kicked the f
ker and the owner called it away I shouted that it had bitten me but they were uninterested. I decided as it was bruising and only damaged the top layer of skin that the police had better things to do than call them down.
I was shocked though at the owners lack of control of their pet. As someone above mentioned it's not the dogs fault it's the owners.
There was a family out for a walk on the actual fairway when the dog decided to chase me is topped pedalling wasn't going fast anyway but he kept trying to jump at me from the left. The owner eventually shouted (probably more to do with the dog getting further away than it bothering me) and it disappeared I start to pedal off from the crawl next thing from the right BITE I kicked the f
ker and the owner called it away I shouted that it had bitten me but they were uninterested. I decided as it was bruising and only damaged the top layer of skin that the police had better things to do than call them down. I was shocked though at the owners lack of control of their pet. As someone above mentioned it's not the dogs fault it's the owners.
When I used to cycle to work, I met the same old guy with the same mental dog that ALWAYS used to bark and try to bite at my ankles. The first time I peddled faster after getting a nip, the second time I shouted it away and he was warned to get it on a lead or it would get a kick. The third time, it got a kick. The following day the old guy was waiting for me and asked why I kicked his dog. I showed him the bruise on my ankle from day one and asked him how he would feel if it was his grandkids, or some five year old that the dog bit. His reply? "It only bites people on bikes. It doesn't like bikes".
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So obviously five year olds and grandkids can't ride bikes?!!?
He was warned again that it would keep getting kicked if it tried to bite me. He changed his walk time to avoid me instead, but I still saw him walking the dog without a lead. Some people don't deserve to own a dog, they're too moronic.
Maybe, as mentioned above, I should have kicked him instead...
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So obviously five year olds and grandkids can't ride bikes?!!?
He was warned again that it would keep getting kicked if it tried to bite me. He changed his walk time to avoid me instead, but I still saw him walking the dog without a lead. Some people don't deserve to own a dog, they're too moronic.
Maybe, as mentioned above, I should have kicked him instead...
Richards bicycle book deals with this.
Stop your bike, put the bike between you and the dog and the dog will normally back off.
If it doesn't then either use the bike or you bicycle pump (longer the better) as a weapon.
Do to try to outrun dogs - I get chased on the dirtbike quite often by dogs - they are pretty fats and are far more manuever able at speed than a bicycle is.
Stop your bike, put the bike between you and the dog and the dog will normally back off.
If it doesn't then either use the bike or you bicycle pump (longer the better) as a weapon.
Do to try to outrun dogs - I get chased on the dirtbike quite often by dogs - they are pretty fats and are far more manuever able at speed than a bicycle is.
hman said:
Stop your bike, put the bike between you and the dog and the dog will normally back off.
This. I've been chased by dogs, stopped and shouted at them, ran over one once, and smacked several on the head as they run alongside and then do a kamikaze into the pedals - all off leads.
The closest I've got to getting a nip was when I stopped on a path and talked to a dog walker (pleasantly) as they reeled their dog in so I could pass and then it just went for me.
I've come to the conclusion that if I had to the only ting I could do with a bigish dog is to use the bike to pin it down but if you do, make sure its a full susser with some bits to block in the front triangle.
Yay!
I got a chase today from a Jack Russell. It was awesome, just the motivation I needed, as I'd been slacking for several minutes previously.
The dog and it's 'keeper' stumbled out of woodland just ahead of me near Hungry Hill on the Aldershot Military Lands, 'keeper' was a teenaged boy, wearing some snazzy white over-the-ear headphones, and concentrating harder on his mobile/ipod/whatever device was providing his 'beats' than he was on walking his dog.
I just cycled around the pair of them, avoiding them with plenty of space to spare, and initially the dog seemed to ignore me. Then a few seconds later it had easily caught up to me and was pacing me to my left. The boy was yelling for it to come back, but the dog wasn't having any of it. I put as much power as I could muster into cranking the pedals over, and the daft beast chased me for over 500 metres over hard packed sand, before peeling off and trotting back to it's 'keeper'. It was growling at first, but didn't try to attack. I found it really funny, this lazy looking doofus with his 'tunes' on, running after his mental Jack Russell. Although despite his skinny frame, he didn't appear to be very fit, as he quickly returned to a brisk walk, as if running was something he didn't agree with...
I got a chase today from a Jack Russell. It was awesome, just the motivation I needed, as I'd been slacking for several minutes previously.
The dog and it's 'keeper' stumbled out of woodland just ahead of me near Hungry Hill on the Aldershot Military Lands, 'keeper' was a teenaged boy, wearing some snazzy white over-the-ear headphones, and concentrating harder on his mobile/ipod/whatever device was providing his 'beats' than he was on walking his dog.
I just cycled around the pair of them, avoiding them with plenty of space to spare, and initially the dog seemed to ignore me. Then a few seconds later it had easily caught up to me and was pacing me to my left. The boy was yelling for it to come back, but the dog wasn't having any of it. I put as much power as I could muster into cranking the pedals over, and the daft beast chased me for over 500 metres over hard packed sand, before peeling off and trotting back to it's 'keeper'. It was growling at first, but didn't try to attack. I found it really funny, this lazy looking doofus with his 'tunes' on, running after his mental Jack Russell. Although despite his skinny frame, he didn't appear to be very fit, as he quickly returned to a brisk walk, as if running was something he didn't agree with...
On a brighter note my collie loves coming out with me on my bike , there's a long gravel path near me and I can see it is clear, we cruise along @ 10-15 mph , I then shout 3,2,1 RACE and we go flat out racing each other, I can only pull away at about 25mph + , he loves it ! MY JR less so and normally gives up about a mile behind us to piss up all the lampposts!
I guess I'm spoilt where I live all the dog owners seem OK and friendly, as I walk the same remote walks and only use the Mountain Bike to get to work on
I guess I'm spoilt where I live all the dog owners seem OK and friendly, as I walk the same remote walks and only use the Mountain Bike to get to work on
DoubleSix said:
I'd have held my bike above my head and brought it down chain rings first...
I had to do this once, dog went for me, I stopped and it then bit me, only way to get rid of it was to throw my bike at it. Owner was screaming, dog totally out of control. I ended up with a nice set of tooth marks in my thigh, dog went off whimpering after my pedal walked it in the head.To quote the owner " he always chases bikes, but that's the first time he's bitten anyone"
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