Car Tax - and the changes?
Car Tax - and the changes?
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White S3

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172 posts

165 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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idea Has anyone explored the bounds of the new rules that have come into force wrt to Car tax? I am wondering if the DVLA's shift to allowing monthly direct debit alongside their statement that as soon as you SORN your car and cancel the DD they stop taking money and that effectively means that the 6mths/12mth goes out of the window!?!

I currently work away from the UK for 10-11wks and back for 4wks and so if I buy 12mths at the beginning of the month I am home, if I SORN the car in the last week I effectively only get charged for 1mth with DVLA not taking any more until I put the car back on the road 70days later - in summary, over the 12mths the car is only on the road for 3mths and I only pay 3mth road fund? Winner if this is the case. Anyone know differently?

Mark

mep12345

2,061 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Mark, I think this is correct, but you could always do that before you just had to keep waiting for the refund if you did.

Kitchski

6,551 posts

260 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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It should work better for you Mark, as you just tax it when you want to use it (DD only allows 12 month periods, so it's actually cheaper than 6 month, even with the interest for going DD) and SORN it when you've finished, which automatically just cancels your DD.

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Wouldn't it be great if you could tax it by the day? So if it's sunny just log on and buy a day. Great for those winter days when the sun is shining and the sky is blue. And if it's a rotten summer you're not wasting money by leaving it in the garage. Write to your MP! They'll all be desperate for votes this time around laugh

Kitchski

6,551 posts

260 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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v8s4me said:
Wouldn't it be great if you could tax it by the day? So if it's sunny just log on and buy a day. Great for those winter days when the sun is shining and the sky is blue. And if it's a rotten summer you're not wasting money by leaving it in the garage. Write to your MP! They'll all be desperate for votes this time around laugh
They wouldn't make as much money that way, as people usually tax the car and then leave them parked for weeks or months at a time with tax still in the screen.

What's actually cheeky now, is that you have to cancel the tax when you sell the car. I'm pretty sure this is only to make more money, as if you think about it, say you pay for 6 months' tax, and then sell the car on the 20th of the 4th month. You have to cash the tax in, but you only get whole months back, meaning you receive months 5 and 6. You surrender the remaining tax for the 4th month and have to write it off, even though you've paid for it.
New owner gets your car, and has to tax it right away, only they have to backdate it to the beginning of month 4. This means both they, and you have paid for month 4 and DVLA have made two sales for the effort of one, and it's YOU that did all the legwork. That's why you cannot now transfer the tax - essentially every time a car is sold privately, DVLA make an extra month's income. There was absolutely no need at all to bring that aspect of the system in, and the rest of it all makes perfect sense, so long as they police it properly, otherwise I won't bother laugh

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Kitchski said:
..They wouldn't make as much money that way...
That's the nail hit on the head. It's not a "road tax" ie based on using the the road, it's an ownership tax.

Kitchski said:
... so long as they police it properly....
That's expensive so it's easier and cheaper to screw those of us who do pay.

They're all bascensoredds!

Rant switch to "off".

White S3

Original Poster:

172 posts

165 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Woo Hoo, just paying for the months I can use the car without being penalised for the remainder when its sitting dormant actually makes sense! Who'd 'ave thought it - how long before they close that loop hole? Cannot wait to burn some rubber next time I'm home - just need to sort the MoT out in Feb and I'll have the whole of March to play.

Deeman

1,609 posts

211 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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v8s4me said:
They're all bascensoredds!

Rant switch to "off".
Then there's the TV licence....... Why oh why oh why do we have to pay this anymore, when EVERYTHING is repeat on freeview (so we've paid for it all the first time!)

They're all thieving bds

Don't steal - the government doesn't like competition!

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Deeman said:
...Then there's the TV licence....... Why oh why oh why do we have to pay this anymore..
To fund the BBC; worth every penny! Do you want all channels to be interrupted every 5 minutes with commercials? BBC2 & 4 are about the only channels left that make programmes for adults with an attention span of more than 10 minutes.


Deeman said:
...Don't steal - the government doesn't like competition!
And they are so good at it laugh

jwigglesworth

409 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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To fund the BBC; worth every penny! Do you want all channels to be interrupted every 5 minutes with commercials? BBC2 & 4 are about the only channels left that make programmes for adults with an attention span of more than 10 minutes.

Best joke I heard in a long time:BBC making programs that you can watch? You guys on the forum crack me up!! The BBC only puts out programs to massage its own collective ego & justify the exhorbitant price of the licence fee.

Note to self-STOP RANTING-NOW

mep12345

2,061 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Deeman said:
Then there's the TV licence....... !
Try mine, have to work away from home so live in provided accommodation just like a hotel or student accommodation but each room treated as separate residence (unlike a hotel) so have to pay one lot for weekdays and another lot for weekends at home. Screwed twice over

Alan461

853 posts

160 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Deeman said:
Then there's the TV licence....... Why oh why oh why do we have to pay this anymore
If the BBC shut up shop and said there's £150 you don't owe us there would be a lot of complaint,
we would get used to it but Britain would be a poorer place

glenrobbo

40,445 posts

179 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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mep12345 said:
Deeman said:
Then there's the TV licence....... !
Try mine, have to work away from home so live in provided accommodation just like a hotel or student accommodation but each room treated as separate residence (unlike a hotel) so have to pay one lot for weekdays and another lgot for weekends at home. Screwed twice over
frown That's pretty harsh Mark. What a rip-off!

mph1977

12,467 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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mep12345 said:
Deeman said:
Then there's the TV licence....... !
Try mine, have to work away from home so live in provided accommodation just like a hotel or student accommodation but each room treated as separate residence (unlike a hotel) so have to pay one lot for weekdays and another lot for weekends at home. Screwed twice over
student accomodation where there are seperate occupation licence / ASTs and single living accomodation for the Forces also works on that basis.