3.4s 19s over 18s and which ones - or suspension lower?
3.4s 19s over 18s and which ones - or suspension lower?
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wilpert

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43 posts

136 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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I have a 3.4s in Atlas grey.
the wheels are standard 18s and in good nick.
I dont like the big gap around the wheel arch, it reminds me too much of my old VW Golf mk4, which I put lowering springs on.
anyway, I digress, what i would like is has anybody swapped 18s for 19s on standard suspension and what was the ride like.
would a good alternative be to reduce the ride height with lowering springs or different suspension set up? - recommendations please?
final thing, if I do keep the stock wheels and lower the ride height, would they look good colour coded with the car - who could do this - recommendations please?

thanks in advance, any pics would be really great if you've done anything similar?

nutsytvr

601 posts

216 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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Wilpert
Someone may correct me here, but I don't think increasing the wheel size will make any difference to the gap in the wheel arch. If you increase the wheel size, you fit lower profile tyres as the rolling radius must remain the same - otherwise you affect the speedo and gearing - or am I wrong???

wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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No you are right, i was being dumb there tbh, I should know that without even thinking about it.
I think I will look at suspension lowering options, but not sure which is best to keep a sensible town/b road drive?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

283 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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fit cayman R shocks and springs

wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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How much do they drop the ride and what sort of cost are we talking?

Trev450

6,568 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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The CR sits 20mm lower. OPC would be best for an idea on costs.

PR36

341 posts

134 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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I have a 3.4S with 19" and non pasm and looked into options for the same reason (the planet 9 forum is and excellent place for Cayman info). The CR suspension appears to be a cost effective and oem way of reducing the gap however from what i read it wont actually lower the car to the same level/look as the CR and so you may be disappointed. The planet 9 forum has some pics of cars with this susp fitted and you should be able to see the difference. Im going with Bilstein PSS9 when i get the cash together.

wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Im a non PASM person too but IIRC the non pasm lends itself better to adapting suspension etc.

Have you ever ridden 18s?
Im considering 19s but i dont want too harsh a ride and thought that 18s might work well with the lowered ride height?

what is the fitted cost of the Bilsteins set up that you are considering?

Trev450

6,568 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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19's without PASM = harsh ride.

PR36

341 posts

134 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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I havent driven a cayman s with 18 wheels but my car on 19 is certainly harsh on the road but then feels soft on track. The bilstein kit is about £2200 on its own but the labour cost to fit is expensive. I asked for the price to include geo and corner weighting etc and it put another £1k on top from a well known indie.

wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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thats a pricey package all in all but as you're using it for track too then I can see the justification.
I have previously done a bit of cycle time trialling and I can justify hundreds of pounds for a few seconds faster and yet when it comes to the road bike every day use I tend to skimp on costs.

Digressing a bit but how much is a used Cayman R, somehow that would seem to be an answer to having the full package without having to spend on upgrades?

PR36

341 posts

134 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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I have an 07 and considered upgrading to a gen 11 car which supposedly has the better more reliable engine however the prices are high with the CR well out of reach for me, so i reason that spending between 5-6k on uprated suspension, rear carnewal exhaust, plenum/TB, and ecu software, labour, gets me something very near to a CR for a lot less cash!

wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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makes sense to me, I keep looking at 993s but cant justify 30k for a 20 year old car.
I have the carnewal exhaust and I consider it a well spent mod.
Have you done this already or is it a job for the future?

Trev450

6,568 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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wilpert said:
Digressing a bit but how much is a used Cayman R, somehow that would seem to be an answer to having the full package without having to spend on upgrades?
You're looking at £40k plus at the moment and with no sign of the prices falling.

tidfrance

95 posts

148 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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40k for a 993!! I paid £54k for mine new in 94!!!

Trev450

6,568 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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tidfrance said:
40k for a 993!! I paid £54k for mine new in 94!!!
We're talking about Cayman R's on this planet. wink

wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Im kinda wondering id Cayman Rs could be a good investment - they seem pretty rare and can be used as a daily driver?

Id be tempted to waste 40k on one of those over 40k on a 993!

I do love the 993's but Im coming to a conclusion that unless I find a really tidy one then i may go either Cayman S pdk or cayman R
Both cars I reckon will hold value quite well.



anonymous-user

72 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Had my 987.1 S fitted with Eibach Pro Springs and the Suspension set up by Centre Gravity....looks better and drives better.

anonymous-user

72 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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wilpert

Original Poster:

43 posts

136 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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looks very classy but must have cost you a few quid - i see you sold your house and bought a caravan