Outriggers - Fix Prior To Sale?
Outriggers - Fix Prior To Sale?
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Bobhon

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1,059 posts

208 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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My V8S, which is up for sale, has been inspected by a reputable TVR guru and he has recommended that I get the outriggers repaired. No holes found at the moment, but he stated that they will need doing sometime as there is an amount of surface rust on them.

So the question is, should I get them repaired at our local TVR specialist for £1,500 and hold out for the asking price or should I sell the car at a price which reflects the need for this work to be done?
This would give someone the chance to buy a V8S for a great price which they could run through this hot summer that we’re having and then in the winter get the work done.

Lack of a garage, drive space or a welder preclude me doing a partial lift on the drive.

Bob

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

211 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Hi
I would clean off the rust and see how bad they are, if no holes and look ok just prime and paint

£1500 sounds a lot for a outrigger repair

Alan

Dave_M

5,486 posts

253 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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It's about the price I've heard before. However, about 2 years ago I had them cut off and replaced in situ for just over £200 but that is very cheap (and the welder needs to be good).

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Alan Whitaker said:
....£1500 sounds a lot for a outrigger repair..
Agreed.

If I was in your position I'd sell it as it is and let the new owner deal with it. They might be more happy knowing the work had been done properly. See this old thread

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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v8s4me said:
If I was in your position I'd sell it as it is and let the new owner deal with it.
I think the issue is that some prospective buyers don't want to "deal with it", they want a sorted, ready to go car not one that's going to disappear into a garage for a month or so straight after buying it.
Getting a quality and fairly priced repair in the UK is not too difficult but may not be so easy for a mainland Europe buyer?



Bob, is it still taxed, do you want to bring it over one day and we can have an "exploratory probe" !!!!!!

portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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phillpot said:
v8s4me said:
If I was in your position I'd sell it as it is and let the new owner deal with it.
I think the issue is that some prospective buyers don't want to "deal with it", they want a sorted, ready to go car not one that's going to disappear into a garage for a month or so straight after buying it.
Getting a quality and fairly priced repair in the UK is not too difficult but may not be so easy for a mainland Europe buyer?



Bob, is it still taxed, do you want to bring it over one day and we can have an "exploratory probe" !!!!!!
If your selling your car with the outriggers requiring attention, you have to reflect this in the sale price, and inform this in the advert. with outriggers looking at about £1600 + VAT so your looking at £1800, for a body lift replacement. You must start looking at the rest of the chassis as well. A scrap down and repaint I think is a abit gash, as the bits that rust cannot be got too properly with the body on, unless you want to start welding around old paint and fibre glass.

fullpull

262 posts

196 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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phillpot said:
I think the issue is that some prospective buyers don't want to "deal with it", they want a sorted, ready to go car not one that's going to disappear into a garage for a month or so straight after buying it.
Getting a quality and fairly priced repair in the UK is not too difficult but may not be so easy for a mainland Europe buyer.
+1

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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portzi said:
...If you're selling your car with the outriggers requiring attention, you have to reflect this in the sale price, and inform this in the advert. ...


Obviously. My point is, that as a prospective buyer, if you get the work done yourself by someone you trust, you've got a known quality at the end of it. Looking back to when I bought mine, I naively assumed that a relatively recent big bill from a reputable dealer would cover me. How wrong I was! 20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing! If I was buying another one I'd rather see what I was getting, warts and all. Alternatively, get one that has had a full body off done by someone you can trust. All down to budget in the end, but as we all know, you never get your money back on a full restoration, which means that as a buyer, if you can find a car which has been fully restored properly at a fair price you'll get much more for your money.

The reverse of this is that if you come across a "full restoration" at a silly price then it's almost certainly too good to be true.

Maybe you can persuade Phillpot to do them for you? laugh

Griffinr

1,017 posts

203 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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fullpull said:
phillpot said:
I think the issue is that some prospective buyers don't want to "deal with it", they want a sorted, ready to go car not one that's going to disappear into a garage for a month or so straight after buying it.
Getting a quality and fairly priced repair in the UK is not too difficult but may not be so easy for a mainland Europe buyer.
+1
Taking another view, if your a buyer short of cash but rich in hands on skills then it could be just what your looking for. My DIY partial lift and outrigger repair cost £50 and 4 days, most of which was waiting for the paint to dry properly.
Rob.

phillpot

17,508 posts

212 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Griffinr said:
Taking another view, if your a buyer short of cash but rich in hands on skills then it could be just what your looking for.
Perhaps I should but out and let Bob answer for himself but unfortunately these don't seem to be the prospective buyers he's had so far?

portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Griffinr said:
fullpull said:
phillpot said:
I think the issue is that some prospective buyers don't want to "deal with it", they want a sorted, ready to go car not one that's going to disappear into a garage for a month or so straight after buying it.
Getting a quality and fairly priced repair in the UK is not too difficult but may not be so easy for a mainland Europe buyer.
+1
Taking another view, if your a buyer short of cash but rich in hands on skills then it could be just what your looking for. My DIY partial lift and outrigger repair cost £50 and 4 days, most of which was waiting for the paint to dry properly.
Rob.
good point. Its all down to funds and the buyers engineers capabilities. Cutting tube and plate, and Mig welding is easy enough to do, even properly to a novice, its when you do that partial lift and see the rest of the chassis, wishbones, bushes, ,under the manifolds where heat from here removes powercoat and paint and accelerates rust. Then theres the main rails going back underneath body, which are some of the worst areas for trapping water and perishing away. where do you stop. You can tell the buyer I have fixed the outriggers but the main chassis rails require attention too? I am only talking from what cars I have seen, and the most common areas of rust, particular where water and dirt rests, and where heat effects the chassis.

Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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phillpot said:
Perhaps I should but out and let Bob answer for himself but unfortunately these don't seem to be the prospective buyers he's had so far?
Mike

Haven't you made Bob an offer on this yet? You know you want to. wink

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Post a picture, we can see nhow bad they are

Alan