RE: Priceless Ferrari 410 Sport goes up for sale

RE: Priceless Ferrari 410 Sport goes up for sale

Friday 10th December 2004

Priceless Ferrari 410 Sport goes up for sale

One of only two made, it's the ultimate Christmas pressie


One of only two Scaglietti-bodied 1955 Ferrari 410 Sport Spyders made -- chassis number 0598 CM -- is currently available for sale via international historic competition car dealer Duncan Hamilton, valued at about £3 million.

The 410s were the ultimate racers of their time, both visually and technically. Originally built for the then cancelled 1955 Carrera Panamericana, their only works appearance was in the Buenos Aires 1000 Kilometres of the following year, where chassis 0598 CM was piloted by non other than Juan Manuel Fangio and Eugenio Catellotti. The rapid 380bhp red cars with their special 24-plug V12 engines were hitting a top speed of over 300 kph, but eventually succumbed to axle problems.

O598 CM was then sold to John Edgar of the USA, in whose care it achieved notable success at the hands of such motor racing legends as Carroll Shelby, Phil Hill, Richie Ginther and Masten Gregory - the car was virtually unbeatable throughout 1956 and 1957.

Said Adrian Hamilton, "Following its glory days on the track, 0598 CM has been hidden away in a secret Swiss collection and now represents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for collectors the world over. Cars of this provenance and pedigree come to the market once in a blue moon and we are delighted to be handling the sale."

More info from Adrian Hamilton on 01256 765000 and at www.duncanhamilton.com

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vladd

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7,990 posts

271 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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How can it be priceless if its woth 3 million quid? Oxymoron, n'est pas?

turbobloke

106,991 posts

266 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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Agreed, hardly priceless. There's more on this on an existing FML thread (Page 2 currently)

bertie

8,565 posts

290 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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vladd said:
How can it be priceless if its woth 3 million quid? Oxymoron, n'est pas?


If you take that view, nothing is priceless, everything has a price.

I'd call £3million for a car as close to priceless as makes no odds.

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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Sad thing is that it will stay in the garage forever . . .

agent006

12,058 posts

270 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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Holy BeJesus, i'd ratehr have this (from the same dealer):

www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307

MarkusD

46 posts

238 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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hey...its got an automatic transmission! Are you sure???

turbobloke

106,991 posts

266 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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agent006 said:
Holy BeJesus, i'd ratehr have this (from the same dealer): <a href="http://www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307"><a href="http://www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307">www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307</a></a>


That's an amazing car. I'll start breathing again soon...Edited to add, what is there for 90k that would be more tempting


>> Edited by turbobloke on Friday 10th December 17:26

t1grm

4,656 posts

290 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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Ted

Good of you to put the contact phone number on there just in case any PH’ers have 3 mil handy and fancy giving him a call.

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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agent006 said:
Holy BeJesus, i'd ratehr have this (from the same dealer):

www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307


"Power output is 725 bhp at 4000 rpm" Sorry hon, I wonna rev hard . . .

jazzybee

3,056 posts

255 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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dinkel said:

agent006 said:
Holy BeJesus, i'd ratehr have this (from the same dealer):

<a href="http://www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307">www.racecarnewmedia.com/duncanhamilton/carsforsale/CarDetails.asp?ID=307</a>



"Power output is 725 bhp at 4000 rpm" Sorry hon, I wonna rev hard . . .


You forgot the best bit " with peak torque a staggering 1,150 lb/ft at 3,100 rpm"

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Saturday 11th December 2004
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That's an awfull lot. But Looking at those figures: the Aston must tip at least 6k to get those pulling figures at 3100 . . . Still I prefer this:



Or this:

MarkusD

46 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th December 2004
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so do I! so much power seems to be wasted... it's allways the complete package which makes the ride perfect...not the sheer power or speed...

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Saturday 11th December 2004
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Dunno, it's all about refinement. A nice beefy revvy 4 litre v8 in a Cerb makes sense as the 8k revving Dino lump does in the 246 GT. . . A 528 CID V8 in a '72 Challenger may be rude as hell but can you image something else in it?

MarkusD

46 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th December 2004
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I agree...but I have in mind all these Koenig-spoiled Ferraris of the 80ies and 90ies with so called "1200 HP with twin turbos..bla bla bla..." and my own experience driving a very powerfull de tomaso gts with NO traction at all...or the 450 hp version of a 3200 gt - and then getting caught in the rain...nightmares ;-))

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Saturday 11th December 2004
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I bet the Urraco is a nicer run than a 1200 horse Lingenfelter Vette . . .

MarkusD

46 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th December 2004
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thats what I hope - if not: you can call me a complete idiot...buying that p 300 without a testdrive... but I drove another very nice example and I was imediately caught by the sound and the lightness of the car...the cornering abilities and the possibilities of playing a little bit "italian job" on the roads to italy...

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Sunday 12th December 2004
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Markus, did you ever tried a Jalpa?

MarkusD

46 posts

238 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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No...i didn't...I have some problems with the in my opinion too small wheels in the wheelarches... but I never drove one..did you?

dinkel

27,127 posts

264 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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MarkusD said:
No...i didn't...I have some problems with the in my opinion too small wheels in the wheelarches... but I never drove one..did you?


Nah, the fastest Italo I sat in was next to the driver in a 2000GTV . . .