swapped an original Fiat 500 engine for something else?
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If its an orginal 500 - no idea on 'usual' swaps, better off hotting it up to Abarth 695 engine spec -so around 34ish bhp, better than a straight change I would have thought, at least then its more in keeping with the car.
If you were keen to swap out an orginal engine, perhaps one of the 60s alfa 1.3s would be fitting. Power would depend on the spec of the donor car naturally.
Seems like a lot of hassle and cash either way for a first car!
Whats the budget?
If you were keen to swap out an orginal engine, perhaps one of the 60s alfa 1.3s would be fitting. Power would depend on the spec of the donor car naturally.
Seems like a lot of hassle and cash either way for a first car!
Whats the budget?
gemini said:
Sorry
60s 70s car
Abarth?
Ill have a google!
Hang on, the best site for quick Abarth 500 references Ive found is French Wikipedia ive translated it for you (not myself!), oddly not much on the net on the changes to the abarth 500.60s 70s car
Abarth?
Ill have a google!
"Launched July 4, 1957, the new 500 seems perfectly suited to its purpose. Simple and inexpensive, which will improperly called in France also the "yoghurt pot". The pot of yoghurt brand is it registered with the INPI. Except Mechanical it shows the architecture of the Fiat 600 , with a motor positioned at the rear and four independent wheels. It is powered by a twin line air-cooled 479 cm 3 16.5 developing horses, which allows it to reach 85 km / h . Known for its vibration at idle, there is no shortage of up in city traffic, despite the crackle box jaw and high noise level due to the turbine. Carlo Abarth will soon change to this little engine with pistons, connecting rods and special crankshafts, camshafts and modified special exhausts.
It was in 1958 that will launch the first Fiat 500 conversion kit with Abarth , Fiat 595 Abarth. With 19 horses engine prepared: reprofiled camshaft, carburetor modification and specific case, it was soon noticed by a series of records set on the racetrack Monza between 13 and 20 February 1959 Pilots Remo Cattini,. Marino Guarnieri and Corrado Manfredini take turns for seven days to cover 18,186 kilometers averaging 108.252 km / h .
The same year, Abarth makes a record car built on a tubular chassis and keeping, like the sedan, the implementation of engine to rear overhangs. Designed by Pininfarina and built in aluminum, prototype weighs only 368 kg. He beat 23 international records, including 2,000 kilometers of the average of 153.319 km / h . Amended in 1959 by adding a long tail and removing the periscope, the car sets in the month of August 1959, five new records from Class 1 ( 351 cm 3 to 500 cm 3 ), the 1000 km average of 165.652 km / h .
It was not until late 1963 that is launched on the market the Fiat 595 Abarth derived from the 500, presented in November 1963 at the Salon of Turin . It will be registered to run in the class of less than 600 cm 3 with the constraint to make at least a thousand copies of series. Abarth carried out as for the Fiat 750 Abarth by increasing the engine that runs 594 cm 3 , hence the name 595. With 27 horses at 5000 rev / min , the power is modest but the car exceeds 120 km / h . Externally, the Abarth logo on the front side and some entries identify the car.
From the autumn of 1956, Abarth could receive incomplete home cars Fiat and provide specific items Abarth.
In 1964, the SS 595 appears, the 32 horses propel the car to 130 km / h . The SS receives a profile surtoit presented as an aerodynamic spoiler and whose function is also, and especially, to stiffen the hull weakened by its soft top. Many options are available, including alloy wheels, dashboard dials and four wheel Abarth aluminum rim covered in leather. Following the evolution of the Fiat 500, the 595 SS benefits from 1965 doors opening against the wind. Quickly, it is supported a version Assetto Corsa reserved for competition. The same power, the car is equipped with fender flares resin reported on the body, which allow to mount large wheels Abarth. It also receives the dashboard dials and four wheel option on the SS. Latest development, Assetto Corsa SS 595 is rewarded in 1970 with a new decorative treatment, more light: fender flares are then painted red, as the underbody and part of the front trapezoidal .
Abarth present at the Salon de l'Automobile in Geneva in 1964, 695, more civilized than the SS 595 model and is considered the most balanced Ia road version of the Abarth derived from the Fiat 500. If the power of 30 horses and maximum speed of 130 km / h are almost identical to the 595 SS, the new engine of 689 cm 3 super square (76 x 76 mm) is less sharp. 695 is quickly followed by a more elaborate version, the 695 SS. It exceeds 135 km / h with 38 horsepower at 5200 rev / min with a compression ratio of 9.8 / 1 and a carburetor 34 millimeters. It can be equipped with the same profile as surtoit 595 SS. 695 SS in turn receives its Assetto Corsa Version mechanically identical, but recognizable by its extended wings.
Very bright, 595 and 695 relate to countless sporting success Abarth in classes 600 and 700. As collection, they are now highly sought after by lovers of small cars nerve. However, among the signed Abarth Fiat 500 derivatives, the most fantastic rest berlinetta 500 GT Zagato"
As original (or well done Abarth recreation) it would be worth more money, I'd think.
126 is the obvious hop up, but folk have put everything from FIRE engines to (only for the very brave!) MR2 turbo engines in 126s. Assuming that the 500 is as light as it looks, that should give 500bhp/tonne................
126 is the obvious hop up, but folk have put everything from FIRE engines to (only for the very brave!) MR2 turbo engines in 126s. Assuming that the 500 is as light as it looks, that should give 500bhp/tonne................
As original (or well done Abarth recreation) it would be worth more money, I'd think.
126 is the obvious hop up, but folk have put everything from FIRE engines to (only for the very brave!) MR2 turbo engines in 126s. Assuming that the 500 is as light as it looks, that should give 500bhp/tonne................
Or there is that Italian guy on you tube who sticks Lambo and Ferrari engines in them...........
126 is the obvious hop up, but folk have put everything from FIRE engines to (only for the very brave!) MR2 turbo engines in 126s. Assuming that the 500 is as light as it looks, that should give 500bhp/tonne................
Or there is that Italian guy on you tube who sticks Lambo and Ferrari engines in them...........
Steyr Putsch (spelling?) put BMW boxer engines in them. Or maybe -- as Wikipaedia suggests, they were Steyr's interpretation of a boxer twin.
Of course, the engines they were putting in them are probably worth as much as the original 500, but there are modern equivalents.
Feature in Practical Performance Car (maybe the current edition) of a bloke putting them in 2CVs.
Has the advantage of being light, small, air cooled. (Rather important, that last bit!)
No idea how much engineering is involved, but there has to be some kind of club out there.
No idea how old your son is, but if it's a first car, I'd wrap the 500 up, buy him a Cinquecento. You'd get the two for less than the one and hotting it up.
Video of one here : http://www.fiat500owners.com/forum/63-car-chit-cha...
Of course, the engines they were putting in them are probably worth as much as the original 500, but there are modern equivalents.
Feature in Practical Performance Car (maybe the current edition) of a bloke putting them in 2CVs.
Has the advantage of being light, small, air cooled. (Rather important, that last bit!)
No idea how much engineering is involved, but there has to be some kind of club out there.
No idea how old your son is, but if it's a first car, I'd wrap the 500 up, buy him a Cinquecento. You'd get the two for less than the one and hotting it up.
Video of one here : http://www.fiat500owners.com/forum/63-car-chit-cha...
Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Saturday 10th May 12:22
Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Saturday 10th May 12:33
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