Is this beyond repair?
Is this beyond repair?
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R1gtr

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3,443 posts

183 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Hi everyone, got a big ride planned first thing tomorrow and when giving the bike the once over I noticed the above^^^^
Is it ok to ride on that? I have spare tubes but no spare tyres sadly and was planning heading off at 6:30am and no bike shops en route

47p2

1,897 posts

190 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Patch on the inside wall of the tyre and you'll be fine

yellowjack

18,443 posts

195 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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I absolutely would NOT ride on it like that.

As 47p2 has said, it's not beyond help. Use a traditional patch kit, if you have one, and slap the patch on the inside of the tyre wall centred over the hole. Use plenty of talc/chalk to prevent the tube sticking to the tyre when you refit it.

This is something I've heard about with Ultremos, but never experienced myself. Something serious has gone on there, with the hole obviously going through the threads of the carcass, so check for sharps inside the tyre, and think about fitting a fresh tube after you repair that hole, as the 'bubble' of tube that's sticking out may well have been stretched/stressed by the experience, and weakened in that spot.

Good luck with the 'long ride' as well. Lucky you caught that before it caught you out, eh!

R1gtr

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3,443 posts

183 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Just tried patching it and even at 90psi looks like it is wanting to split, looks like the ride will have to be postponed till I get a new tyre

yellowjack

18,443 posts

195 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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I just checked your profile.

It says "Region: Highlands". I presume that means the Highlands of Scotland, and not the Surrey Hills. Which is a shame, as if you were close by I was going to offer you a spare from my garage 'stock' to let you get out tomorrow. Not sure the offer is of much help to you, what with it being an 1100 mile round trip from Fort Augustus to Farnborough. Sorry.

Jimbo.

4,220 posts

218 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Ho ho ho. A Schwalbe with a sidewall failure. That's unheard of! wink

It's scrap. Bin it, and make a point of never, EVER buying the over-rated, overly-fragile ste that is Schwalbe again. They're utter toss with a history of such failures, and more.

EDIT: And for emergency repairs to such failures, tyre patches are hopeless. Old business card, toothpaste tube (slightly harder to find if out and about, obviously!) or a proper tyre boot will fare much, much better. Not brilliantly, but enough to see you home and/or to the bike shop.

Fluffsri

3,411 posts

225 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Jimbo. said:
Ho ho ho. A Schwalbe with a sidewall failure. That's unheard of! wink

It's scrap. Bin it, and make a point of never, EVER buying the over-rated, overly-fragile ste that is Schwalbe again. They're utter toss with a history of such failures, and more.

EDIT: And for emergency repairs to such failures, tyre patches are hopeless. Old business card, toothpaste tube (slightly harder to find if out and about, obviously!) or a proper tyre boot will fare much, much better. Not brilliantly, but enough to see you home and/or to the bike shop.
Could have mentioned a week ago lol. New scwable tyres fitted yesterday.

magpie215

5,024 posts

218 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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not sure I would want to be doing any high speed descents knowing that was there?

R1gtr

Original Poster:

3,443 posts

183 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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yellowjack said:
I just checked your profile.

It says "Region: Highlands". I presume that means the Highlands of Scotland, and not the Surrey Hills. Which is a shame, as if you were close by I was going to offer you a spare from my garage 'stock' to let you get out tomorrow. Not sure the offer is of much help to you, what with it being an 1100 mile round trip from Fort Augustus to Farnborough. Sorry.
Thanks yellowjack that is very good off you to offer, sadly I am in the Scottish Highlands, north of Inverness in fact.
Decided to change plans as we are doing the Bealach na Ba, highest, longest road climb in Britain (even tho I have only done 9 rides ever)

Going to get new tyre and head out later and stay the night and get two days cycling in.

47p2

1,897 posts

190 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Good luck with the Bealach, it's on my bucket list for later this year. Let us know how you get on

yellowjack

18,443 posts

195 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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It wasn't that great an offer really, as it would only have been another Schwalbe Ultremo R1 (complete with garish orange stripes wink ) - although it is brand spanking new.

I really don't mind offering, as I'm hoping to "pay it forward" after another PHer did me a massive favour with some pedals, chainrings, and a brake calliper to patch up my MTB. (thanks to richardxjr for that help thumbup )

R1gtr

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3,443 posts

183 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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47p2 said:
Good luck with the Bealach, it's on my bucket list for later this year. Let us know how you get on
Thanks bit apprehensive but if I have to get off and push so be it smile There is a yearly event and this years takes place on Sat 24th May, we are entering so this is the practice run. It is on the website 'handsonevents' it is being organised by a friend and gets more popular every year, go on you know ya wanna wink

47p2

1,897 posts

190 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Yes I've seen the organised event, but going to be doing it with a couple of mates

JEA1K

2,747 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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yellowjack said:
Use a traditional patch kit, if you have one, and slap the patch on the inside of the tyre wall centred over the hole. Use plenty of talc/chalk to prevent the tube sticking to the tyre when you refit it.
In case of emergency, I carry a piece cut from an old tyre which can be glued to the inside of a tyre in case of a bad split on a ride which will then take full pressure and will get you home.

scubadude

2,619 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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This is a good reminder to keep at least one spare tyre in the shed. If I got for a properly long, unsupported ride I'd take it with me too!

bakerstreet

5,042 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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I had this issue with one of my Gatorskins. I chucked it in the bin.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Fluffsri said:
Jimbo. said:
Ho ho ho. A Schwalbe with a sidewall failure. That's unheard of! wink

It's scrap. Bin it, and make a point of never, EVER buying the over-rated, overly-fragile ste that is Schwalbe again. They're utter toss with a history of such failures, and more.

EDIT: And for emergency repairs to such failures, tyre patches are hopeless. Old business card, toothpaste tube (slightly harder to find if out and about, obviously!) or a proper tyre boot will fare much, much better. Not brilliantly, but enough to see you home and/or to the bike shop.
Could have mentioned a week ago lol. New scwable tyres fitted yesterday.
+1, utter ste, although it looks like this isn't the 'normal' delamination issue?

R1gtr

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3,443 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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47p2 said:
Good luck with the Bealach, it's on my bucket list for later this year. Let us know how you get on
It was brutal but amazing all at the same time smile
Can put up a seperate thread with my experience/advice if anyone wants?