Average Speed cash cows on [b]alleged[/b] motorways.

[Liquid Knight]

Yesterday I drove a fair few miles on our alleged motorway network. Sadly for me this involved doing 50mph and passing well over a thousand average speed cameras.

What's going to happen to all of these cameras when the road works (I didn't actually see any work going on but there were loads of holes dug out) are completed?

We need people to be careful outside schools, town centers and other vulnerable areas where there is an elevated pedestrian hazard.

So why not make the motorway network Autobahn's with no speed limit in areas of reduced risk and use the cameras in urban areas where they can do some good instead of either ripping people off or pi$$ing people off?

[Engineer1]

Generally they remove the average speed cameras at the end of the job, they've certainly done this in every roadworks section I've seen on the m6

[Liquid Knight]

Will it ever end though?

The M42, M6, M5, M3 and M25 had holes dug in them yesterday. I went an extra hundred miles to avoid all the ones I passed on the way to where I was going only for the other "M" roads to be dug up as well and speed trapped as well.

After taking over twelve hours to do a nine hour journey I began to think it was a conspiracy to make people buy more Petrol or get on a train.

Thank heck the pub was shut before I got home.

[NPI]

To be fair, I think they're a good thing in roadworks as without them you'd get people driving far faster than the majority and that's a recipe for disaster.

[leggly]

Try travelling overnight if you want some real fun. The HA aholes close roads with no notice whatsoever. I have tried calling the s but they're not interested. The road network in this country is so fked it's comical.

[MatrixXXx]

I think the UK roads are overloaded, who ever designed the motorways severely underestimated the amount of traffic that would be on the roads.

if you have ever driven in Europe especially France the roads are empty

I agree that speed limits are necessary in towns but on open motorways they should be more relaxed, it the slow drivers that cause the problems with the entire motorway having to drive round some one doing 50 in the inside lane.

then there still the middle of the road driver that wont budge!

[SpeckledJim]

MatrixXXx said:

if you have ever driven in Europe especially France the roads are empty

But the French have both a much lower population density, and a lower inclination to drive anywhere.

Visit most small French towns in the middle of the day and there's basically nothing happening, at all.

Yet the equivalent small town in the UK has a proper, congested rush hour twice a day.

[MatrixXXx]

SpeckledJim said:

MatrixXXx said:

if you have ever driven in Europe especially France the roads are empty

But the French have both a much lower population density, and a lower inclination to drive anywhere.

Visit most small French towns in the middle of the day and there's basically nothing happening, at all.

Yet the equivalent small town in the UK has a proper, congested rush hour twice a day.

My point exactly were over populated to many cars, look at early films of the A1 with no speed limits and no traffic.

it make's proper lane discipline even more important

[Who me ?]

Liquid Knight said:

Will it ever end though?

The M42, M6, M5, M3 and M25 had holes dug in them yesterday. I went an extra hundred miles to avoid all the ones I passed on the way to where I was going only for the other "M" roads to be dug up as well and speed trapped as well.

Summer's coming and HA need to create some cause for summer jams.

[Liquid Knight]

I still think it's a conspiracy to get people behind HS2.

[Hackney]

Even when they build a new bit they can't do it properly.
The new 4 lane section of M1 between the M25 and Luton has signs along it saying "road liable to flooding"!
What? Didn't they think to build drainage?

[Zed 44]

M23 50mph section changed to 40mph as all lanes closed down to the nearside one at the gantry and there was the speed camera on top of the gantry. I braked when I saw the other car get flashed but wasn't sure at that time what the speed limit was. Only after that was the 40mph limit obvious.

Hope I get the opportunity to go to school.

http://youtu.be/0zbTTa5D7nM

[hidetheelephants]

Hackney said:

Even when they build a new bit they can't do it properly.
The new 4 lane section of M1 between the M25 and Luton has signs along it saying "road liable to flooding"!
What? Didn't they think to build drainage?

Bugger drainage, build it on stilts.