997.2 GT3 brake upgrade front
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Sorry, just realised you are talking about 997. I was referring to 996. I have Alcons at front only.
I am surprised the 997 owners went for Alcons all round. The standard brakes are not as forward biased as the 996. One would think all the more reason to change only the front brakes on the 997 but leave the rears.
I am surprised the 997 owners went for Alcons all round. The standard brakes are not as forward biased as the 996. One would think all the more reason to change only the front brakes on the 997 but leave the rears.
Harris_I said:
Sorry, just realised you are talking about 997. I was referring to 996. I have Alcons at front only.
I am surprised the 997 owners went for Alcons all round. The standard brakes are not as forward biased as the 996. One would think all the more reason to change only the front brakes on the 997 but leave the rears.
Mine has exactly that as I said, Alcons and rs29 front standard disc rear with rs29 pads.I am surprised the 997 owners went for Alcons all round. The standard brakes are not as forward biased as the 996. One would think all the more reason to change only the front brakes on the 997 but leave the rears.
Although OP is referring to 997s, I am switching to Girodisc on my 996 GT3.
These are newer to UK but tried and tested elsewhere. Lighter and more enduring than OEM of course.
NineExcellence will be sorting out - they have tested extensively on their 1000bhp turbos at Bruntingthorpe. I appreciate a slightly different discipline stopping from 230mph (yes, that's the record they set at the VMax event!) than road or track....but very good thermal performance so far.
Should be cheaper than Alcons too.
Speak to Ken if interested.
These are newer to UK but tried and tested elsewhere. Lighter and more enduring than OEM of course.
NineExcellence will be sorting out - they have tested extensively on their 1000bhp turbos at Bruntingthorpe. I appreciate a slightly different discipline stopping from 230mph (yes, that's the record they set at the VMax event!) than road or track....but very good thermal performance so far.
Should be cheaper than Alcons too.
Speak to Ken if interested.
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Should be cheaper than Alcons too.
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Not so sure about that? For TD's i really doubt there's a whole lot of performance difference in stopping power coming from the disc. Weight and longevity would be my primary deciding points. Alcon do very well on both of those and they are also a UK company so any back up you need is on hand.
Should be cheaper than Alcons too.
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Not so sure about that? For TD's i really doubt there's a whole lot of performance difference in stopping power coming from the disc. Weight and longevity would be my primary deciding points. Alcon do very well on both of those and they are also a UK company so any back up you need is on hand.
Harris_I said:
Sorry, just realised you are talking about 997. I was referring to 996. I have Alcons at front only.
I am surprised the 997 owners went for Alcons all round. The standard brakes are not as forward biased as the 996. One would think all the more reason to change only the front brakes on the 997 but leave the rears.
The OE rear disks on the 997.2 are surprisingly expensive, to the point that aftermarkets with better longevity aren't actually much different in price. Due to less front bias (and the presence of the TC and PSM systems unless you turn them off), the 997 also eats its rear disks rather more enthusiastically than the 996 did. On the 996 there really isn't much incentive to use non-OE on the rear as the OE is fine for the job and sensibly priced. On the 997 this is sadly not the case.I am surprised the 997 owners went for Alcons all round. The standard brakes are not as forward biased as the 996. One would think all the more reason to change only the front brakes on the 997 but leave the rears.
On the gen2 the std discs are bi metal, iron disc with an aluminium bell. Also the rears have to act as a drum for the handbrake too on most 911's so that can help make them look pricey in comparison. The standard discs will start to crack before they wear too thin. The PF stuff is top notch too, the 991 cup car uses PF brakes, caliper, discs and pads. The best combo i have used is Alcon with the Endless pads but i'm not paying the premium for endless, performance is great but a smidgen over RS29 and they are certainly not "endless" :-)
NBTBRV8 said:
porkyrob said:
I have a 997.2 with alcon fronts and endless pads all round. very happy with the stopping power
Any good for street biased use?The Endless endurance pads are expensive but they also last forever, even when you do a whole lot of track days. The endurance pads from PF are cheaper and are nearly as good and last nearly as long as an alternative (squeal a little more though). Can look up the exact type/name for both pads if you are interested as I don't remember from the top of my head.
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