Potential job offer - How shall I negotiate?
Discussion
Hi guys,
Might have to make a choice tomorrow. If I am offered a new position elsewhere.
Thinking if I get a call. How to play it?
I'm gonna ask for a day to think it over and then go back for negotiations?
Current place has been good to me, but money wise given my skills and exp way of the ball. New redtape means the chance to move up is even more difficult. So naturally I have been considering elsewhere.
New place is more money (30%+) and new opps it seems. Also kinda same industry but a specialised division. Its just that the job role is way less dynamic maybe?
My current place is brilliant for WFH, time off when needed and flexibility.....but seems for future development career wise its a dead duck.
Gah so much change!
Might have to make a choice tomorrow. If I am offered a new position elsewhere.
Thinking if I get a call. How to play it?
I'm gonna ask for a day to think it over and then go back for negotiations?
Current place has been good to me, but money wise given my skills and exp way of the ball. New redtape means the chance to move up is even more difficult. So naturally I have been considering elsewhere.
New place is more money (30%+) and new opps it seems. Also kinda same industry but a specialised division. Its just that the job role is way less dynamic maybe?
My current place is brilliant for WFH, time off when needed and flexibility.....but seems for future development career wise its a dead duck.
Gah so much change!
In all honesty, what is there to negotiate? Not ever employer low balls the first offer. So if it's a big increase in cash what's the main driver?
Did you get a good feel for the culture there during the interview? If this plays a high amount of importance, then it's very hard to negotiate on that.
Sounds like you're in a good position to me, judge the new place on what you know, not what you think you can squeeze them for.
Go there, blow them away and then sit down to talk. Specialist industries (I work in one) will fight hard to keep proven staff happy.
Did you get a good feel for the culture there during the interview? If this plays a high amount of importance, then it's very hard to negotiate on that.
Sounds like you're in a good position to me, judge the new place on what you know, not what you think you can squeeze them for.
Go there, blow them away and then sit down to talk. Specialist industries (I work in one) will fight hard to keep proven staff happy.
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Sound advice. It may be a case of having taken the plunge and now it has become a reality, the benefits of the current role are vying with the anxiety and risk of a new role, despite the higher remuneration. If you're truly ambitious and thrive on the challenges and risks that brings, move. If you're less so and crave stability, then staying is often the perceived wisdom. Good luck!
Sound advice. It may be a case of having taken the plunge and now it has become a reality, the benefits of the current role are vying with the anxiety and risk of a new role, despite the higher remuneration. If you're truly ambitious and thrive on the challenges and risks that brings, move. If you're less so and crave stability, then staying is often the perceived wisdom. Good luck!
The one thing you shouldn't do is faff about trying to decide whether or not to accept, you've had as long to make up your mind as they have. When I make a job offer I want an answer so if it's a no I can move on the the second choice, someone who goes off to think about it for ages is someone I regret offering to.
As for negotiating, tell me what you have an issue with and I'll change it or withdraw the offer but bear in mind that there's a whole load of things that are the same for everyone and I'm not going to change them for one person.
Remember that whilst a new job is a big deal for you, the employer has a bunch of people to think of too, including the other applicants. You don't want to say no to all of them until the offer has been accepted by the first choice, so get on with it!
As for negotiating, tell me what you have an issue with and I'll change it or withdraw the offer but bear in mind that there's a whole load of things that are the same for everyone and I'm not going to change them for one person.
Remember that whilst a new job is a big deal for you, the employer has a bunch of people to think of too, including the other applicants. You don't want to say no to all of them until the offer has been accepted by the first choice, so get on with it!
I think the point has already been made but feel free to negotiate. But, negotiate on the items that are not to your satisfaction. Are they going to change the job role for you? Highly unlikely? If your basis for negotiation is 'I want £10k more because quite frankly the job is a bit boring and the office perks not as good' then if they are investing in you to stay medium or long term the company os not going to get much return.
HannsG said:
Hi guys,
Might have to make a choice tomorrow. If I am offered a new position elsewhere.
Thinking if I get a call. How to play it?
I'm gonna ask for a day to think it over and then go back for negotiations?
Current place has been good to me, but money wise given my skills and exp way of the ball. New redtape means the chance to move up is even more difficult. So naturally I have been considering elsewhere.
New place is more money (30%+) and new opps it seems. Also kinda same industry but a specialised division. Its just that the job role is way less dynamic maybe?
My current place is brilliant for WFH, time off when needed and flexibility.....but seems for future development career wise its a dead duck.
Gah so much change!
IMO go back to your current employer, with notice in hand and say "look i've been offered this at ...." "can you match it?" Might have to make a choice tomorrow. If I am offered a new position elsewhere.
Thinking if I get a call. How to play it?
I'm gonna ask for a day to think it over and then go back for negotiations?
Current place has been good to me, but money wise given my skills and exp way of the ball. New redtape means the chance to move up is even more difficult. So naturally I have been considering elsewhere.
New place is more money (30%+) and new opps it seems. Also kinda same industry but a specialised division. Its just that the job role is way less dynamic maybe?
My current place is brilliant for WFH, time off when needed and flexibility.....but seems for future development career wise its a dead duck.
Gah so much change!
If they can and you're happy with your current employer, great, contact the company offering the job and say i'll have to turn it down.
Whereas if they can't, hand your notice in at that point.
That's more than fair IMO.
Mr SFJ said:
IMO go back to your current employer, with notice in hand and say "look i've been offered this at ...." "can you match it?"
If they can and you're happy with your current employer, great, contact the company offering the job and say i'll have to turn it down.
Whereas if they can't, hand your notice in at that point.
That's more than fair IMO.
I agree with Mr SFJ, although it doesn't necessarily need to be 'match it' - you say they give you good work/life flexibility - work out what that is worth to you. To some people a 10% increase with added flexibility is a better deal than a 30% increase in a rigid structure. What works best for you? If you can answer that question you'll know what you want to negotiate for and who you really want to negotiate with.If they can and you're happy with your current employer, great, contact the company offering the job and say i'll have to turn it down.
Whereas if they can't, hand your notice in at that point.
That's more than fair IMO.
As the other chaps have said you are getting 30% more, what is there to negotiate about, although, I have found, in my experience, when speaking to a prospective employer, negotiating on professional development works, i.e. you have seen a course, a diploma, further qualifications etc - it looks good as you are keen to develop yourself and the employers often see this as a benefit to themselves.
Having said that bear in mind that they may tie you into a contract where if you leave within X amount of time you may have to pay for the course - Good luck!!
Having said that bear in mind that they may tie you into a contract where if you leave within X amount of time you may have to pay for the course - Good luck!!
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