Blues Brothers Question

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mrmaggit

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10,146 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Just thinking the other day, after watching Blues Bros 2000, you know "Bob's Country Bunker"?. In the first film, the owners wife, when asked by Elwood, "what kind of music do you have here, ma'am?", she replies, "why we have both kinds, Country AND Western".

What is the difference between Country and Western?

lunarscope

2,895 posts

249 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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mrmaggit said:
Just thinking the other day, after watching Blues Bros 2000, you know "Bob's Country Bunker"?. In the first film, the owners wife, when asked by Elwood, "what kind of music do you have here, ma'am?", she replies, "why we have both kinds, Country AND Western".

What is the difference between Country and Western?

No, that was the original "Blues Brothers".

In answer to your question:
'Country' music - fans s their sisters.
'Western' music - fans s their horses.

guydw

1,651 posts

290 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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country is the more traditional folky style, the western aspect is the more pop styled electric aspect to it, but there were never actually two types of music, one called country and one called western...

it's the same as if you said "all kinds of music, rock AND roll" .........

I'll get my anorak ....

mutley

3,178 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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I'm only guessing but I think it's to do with where the music originates.

Country could be closer to Hillbilly type banjos etc,
Western more Texan and guitar based.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Country comes from the Southeast - Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama

Western comes from the Southwest/west

The Wiz

5,875 posts

269 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Country and western music

American popular music form originating in the Southeast (country music) and the Southwest and West (western music). The two regional styles coalesced in the 1920s when recorded material became available in rural areas, and they were further consolidated after musicians from various sections met and mixed during service in World War II. The primary traditional difference between the two styles is that country music is simpler and uses fewer instruments, relying on guitar, fiddle, banjo, and harmonica, whereas the music of the Southwest tends toward steel guitars and big bands whose style verges on swing (e.g., The Light Crust Doughboys). Bluegrass, exemplified by Bill Monroe, is a style of country and western music distinguished by a driving, syncopated rhythm, high-pitched vocals, and an emphasis on the banjo, mandolin, and fiddle.

Country and western music is directly descended from the folk songs, ballads, and popular songs of the English, Scottish, and Irish settlers of the U.S. southeastern seaboard. Its modern lyrics depict the emotions and experience of rural and (currently) urban poor whites; they often tell frankly of illicit love, crime, and prison life. Over the last 50 years country and western music has gained a nationwide audience. Since 1925 the “Grand Ole Opry,” a Saturday night performance featuring country and western singers, has been broadcast weekly from Nashville, Tenn.

Many of the musicians have been influenced by African-American blues, jazz) and gospel music, but the performers and audience are almost all white. Leading performers include Hank Williams and his son, Jimmy Rodgers, Johnny Cash, Tex Ritter, June Carter-Cash, the Carter Family, Chet Atkins, Patsy Cline, Merle Haggard, Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette, Charley Pride, Charlie Rich, Dolly Parton, and Willie Nelson. In the 1960s and 70s, country and western music significantly influenced the development of rock music. Since then, it has undergone a national revival with performers such as Ricky Scaggs, Garth Brooks, the Judds, Tanya Tucker, and Reba McEntire achieving great popularity.

See B. C. Malone, Country Music USA (1968); P. Hemphill, The Nashville Sound (1971); C. Brown, Music USA: America’s Country and Western Music (1985); K. Sparkman, A People and Their Music (2000).


iansull

1,940 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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"me and the boys ain't got no union cards.What you gonna do?stop us? your gonna look funny eating corn on the cob with no fing teeth"



>> Edited by iansull on Thursday 18th November 13:31

lunarscope

2,895 posts

249 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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mutley said:
I'm only guessing but I think it's to do with where the music originates.

Country could be closer to Hillbilly type banjos etc,
Western more Texan and guitar based.

Yep, that's what I said.

selmer

2,760 posts

249 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Wasn't it a joke. In that they were narrow minded enough to only have the one genre.

mrmaggit

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10,146 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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"Stand by your man"

diddyman

3,646 posts

248 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, a half a pack of cigarattes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

Jake: Hit it.

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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guydw said:
country is the more traditional folky style, the western aspect is the more pop styled electric aspect to it, but there were never actually two types of music, one called country and one called western...

it's the same as if you said "all kinds of music, rock AND roll" .........

I'll get my anorak ....


Additional anorak:

The term "rock and roll" was, originally, a term used to describe the sex act, particularly in brothels...


ErnestM

JonRB

76,112 posts

279 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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The joke is reprised (but turned around) in "Every Which Way You Can" or "Every Which Way But Lose" (can't remember which - it's the series of films with Clint Eastwood, Sondra Locke and Clyde the Orangutan)

They go to a small town and Clint Eastwood asks a young black kid what kind of music they have and he replies "we have both - Rythmn AND Blues".
Clint then asks if they have any Country & Western.

The saddest thing is that I dredged that information up from my own memory rather than Googling it

Edit: "Right turn, Clyde".

>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 18th November 14:17

planetdave

9,921 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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JonRB said:
The joke is reprised (but turned around) in "Every Which Way You Can" or "Every Which Way But Lose" (can't remember which - it's the series of films with Clint Eastwood, Sondra Locke and Clyde the Orangutan)

They go to a small town and Clint Eastwood asks a young black kid what kind of music they have and he replies "we have both - Rythym AND Blues".
Clint then asks if they have any Country & Western.

The saddest thing is that I dredged that information up from my own memory rather than Googling it

Edit: "Right turn, Clyde".

>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 18th November 14:17


Blues is a separate genre and 'rhythm and blues' has a huge split in it - modern R&B being more what used to be known as 'soul' rather that 'Chicago R&B' which is a more 'urban' blues with a higher tempo.

Or something like that.


I'll get back into my hole now

JonRB

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279 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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planetdave said:
Blues is a separate genre and 'rhythm and blues' has a huge split in it - modern R&B being more what used to be known as 'soul' rather that 'Chicago R&B' which is a more 'urban' blues with a higher tempo.

Or something like that.
The film was made in the late 70's / early 80's, so we can forget about the modern travestry that is "R&B".

Yes, I realise that Blues and R&B are two different genres, but I was just postulating that one film was making reference to the other.

According to IMDB, "Every Which Way But Loose" was released in 1978 and "Any Which Way You Can" and "The Blues Brothers" were both released in 1980, so I don't know which film is referring to the other.

2 Smokin Barrels

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242 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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...I see the Olsmobiles are in early this year....

(havoc is shopping mall)

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Friday 3rd July 2015
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You'll look pretty silly eating corn on the cob....

...with no feckin' teeeth biggrin

Strawman

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Wednesday 15th July 2015
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2 Smokin Barrels said:
...I see the Olsmobiles are in early this year....

(havoc is shopping mall)
Surely "The new oldsmobiles...."?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Monday 20th July 2015
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Strawman said:
2 Smokin Barrels said:
...I see the Olsmobiles are in early this year....

(havoc is shopping mall)
Surely "The new oldsmobiles...."?
Don't call me shirley biggrin

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Monday 20th July 2015
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Strawman said:
2 Smokin Barrels said:
...I see the Olsmobiles are in early this year....

(havoc is shopping mall)
Surely "The new oldsmobiles...."?
don't call me shirley biggrin
But.. yes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTRXnuoK1ss