Road trip to Italy
Road trip to Italy
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mason storm

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20 posts

175 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Am planning a trip with my Mrs to Italy, only destination in stone is lake Como and advice on route options and destinations is appreciated

s70rmp

672 posts

145 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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from memory we did this route (if I recall correctly!)

http://goo.gl/maps/PXrfQ

didn't stop in Como but close (12km away) on the way to the Italian F1 last September.

took us 2 days 2 of us driving.

if we had missed out the passes we could have done it in a day I think.

Don't refuel in Switzerland, it more expansive.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

146 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Don't overlook the Islands like Sardinia and Sicily you get the combination of a sea trip on the Med with some of the best traffic free driving roads in Italy so long as it's June or early July.

mason storm

Original Poster:

20 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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Hey thanks so much for that it looks an interesting route. are there any names of the passes so i can research?

s70rmp said:
from memory we did this route (if I recall correctly!)

http://goo.gl/maps/PXrfQ

didn't stop in Como but close (12km away) on the way to the Italian F1 last September.

took us 2 days 2 of us driving.

if we had missed out the passes we could have done it in a day I think.

Don't refuel in Switzerland, it more expansive.

mason storm

Original Poster:

20 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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Thats an interesting thought someone else mentioned Sardinia to me

XJ Flyer said:
Don't overlook the Islands like Sardinia and Sicily you get the combination of a sea trip on the Med with some of the best traffic free driving roads in Italy so long as it's June or early July.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

146 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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mason storm said:
Thats an interesting thought someone else mentioned Sardinia to me

XJ Flyer said:
Don't overlook the Islands like Sardinia and Sicily you get the combination of a sea trip on the Med with some of the best traffic free driving roads in Italy so long as it's June or early July.
For Sardinia it's best to use the ferry from Genoa to Porto Torres and use either the St Bernard or the Simplon and Como is just a short detour on the route.When you get there this is just one of my favourite driving roads to/from the east coast.It's a bit like the American West but without the American traffic law.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.351777,9.544802&amp...

This is some of the North West Coast just down the road from the ferry terminal.

https://maps.google.com/?t=m&layer=c&cbll=...






s70rmp

672 posts

145 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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Col De L'Iseran was one of them sorry cant remember the names a the moment. But check out this thread

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

we did some of the roads this group did, in fact we passed them on the road

Roastie ITR

496 posts

220 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Take a look at the sticky at the top of the page.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It includes write ups of other PHers Euro road trips, should give you lots of ideas for routes.

Personally I would be heading through Germany (Possibly stop at the Nurburgring), through the black forrest, through the Alps and to lake Como.


menoy

142 posts

150 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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s70rmp said:
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Don't refuel in Switzerland, it more expansive.
As in wait for Italy? Had quite a shock when we didn't refuel in Austria and saw the first station in Italy. Even from the below link; Italy 1.766/Ltr vs Switzerland 1.469/Ltr.

http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/

s70rmp

672 posts

145 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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We found it to be the opposite, one of the cheapest fill ups was across the road from the Monza curcuit

AlexIT

1,664 posts

154 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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s70rmp said:
We found it to be the opposite, one of the cheapest fill ups was across the road from the Monza curcuit
Huh?!?!?!
Sure you haven't made a mistake between prices in Euro in Italy and Swiss Francs?

Petrol price here is roughly 1,75 €, in Switzerland 1.72 SFR (1.40 €).


s70rmp

672 posts

145 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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not from what I recall, we came across a few places with cheapish diesel

It appeared in Switzerland that everybody was selling it for exactly the same price,

but I could be wrong getting old ! mind going.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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It would be a very unusual situation in which petrol could be found cheaper in Italy than Switzerland or Austria.As a rule it's always been best to fill up in Luxembourg,Switzerland or Austria where possible with Swiss petrol being relatively even cheaper when the Swiss exchange rate was much better than now.The relative price difference between Italy and everywhere else was once so bad that the Italians had a discount scheme using coupons for foreign tourists bought from the local motoring organisations in our case the AA.

japgt

349 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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if your going to italy, go right up north and do the stelvio pass between italy/switzerland

AlexIT

1,664 posts

154 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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s70rmp said:
not from what I recall, we came across a few places with cheapish diesel

It appeared in Switzerland that everybody was selling it for exactly the same price,

but I could be wrong getting old ! mind going.
Ah, ok thought you were talking about petrol.

I confirm that in Switzerland Diesel is more expensive than petrol and -depending on currency exchange- it can be cheaper in Italy (and far cheaper in Austria or Germany) than Switzerland.

Hope you enjoyed your stay in our surroundings wink

AlexIT

1,664 posts

154 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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japgt said:
if your going to italy, go right up north and do the stelvio pass between italy/switzerland
Not sure it will be open by then...
In Bormio they had over 1m snow the past weekend, up the Stelvio there must be a huge amount of snow

NNH

1,546 posts

148 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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We went to Como last summer, via Geneva to see a friend. We stayed in Bellagio, then went down to Verona for the opera, and on to Croatia.
If you cut through Switzerland, you don't need to pay the Vignette (CHF50ish) if you're not going to use the motorways. With Alpine passes to play with, this was no great hardship.
If you do make it to Croatia, you might want to take a look at the driving route used by the Porsche travel club. We drove some of the Adria Magistrale.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/eventsandracing/travelc...

s70rmp

672 posts

145 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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AlexIT said:
Ah, ok thought you were talking about petrol.

I confirm that in Switzerland Diesel is more expensive than petrol and -depending on currency exchange- it can be cheaper in Italy (and far cheaper in Austria or Germany) than Switzerland.

Hope you enjoyed your stay in our surroundings wink
it was fab !

First stopped for the night in Paradiso outside Lugano
and then moves on around and had a great afternoon in Interlaken, had some great food at the Hooters looking out at the mountains.

Would love to go back this year but we'll have to see.