What are these then?
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They look like Hawker Sea Hawks to me.
If so, then they are probably the RN 'Red Devils' team and the year is 1957.
http://aerobaticteams.net/royal-navy-red-devils.ht...
If the year actually was 1958 then they'll be 800 NAS.
If so, then they are probably the RN 'Red Devils' team and the year is 1957.
http://aerobaticteams.net/royal-navy-red-devils.ht...
If the year actually was 1958 then they'll be 800 NAS.
Reminds me of when we were on an exercise off Hyeres near Toulon. A bunch of planes flew overhead, our boss a 2 ringer said
"I wonder what those are"
I quickly responded with "Jets"
He a tad annoyed said "I know their jets, what type are they"
I quickly responded with "French jets sir".
Exercising his grasp of a naval officer with no sense of amusement, made me bail out of the zodiac and swim to the beach.
I would add we were in wet suits on a diving exercise at the time, so a mile or so with fins wasn't that bad.
I think they were actually called Fouga Magister.
"I wonder what those are"
I quickly responded with "Jets"
He a tad annoyed said "I know their jets, what type are they"
I quickly responded with "French jets sir".
Exercising his grasp of a naval officer with no sense of amusement, made me bail out of the zodiac and swim to the beach.
I would add we were in wet suits on a diving exercise at the time, so a mile or so with fins wasn't that bad.
I think they were actually called Fouga Magister.
Edited by Vipers on Friday 13th December 14:33
Edited by Vipers on Friday 13th December 14:36
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
They look like Hawker Sea Hawks to me.
If so, then they are probably the RN 'Red Devils' team and the year is 1957.
http://aerobaticteams.net/royal-navy-red-devils.ht...
If the year actually was 1958 then they'll be 800 NAS.
Looks about right, cheers. The last photo of your link looks that they had hideously inefficient APUs or that something else?If so, then they are probably the RN 'Red Devils' team and the year is 1957.
http://aerobaticteams.net/royal-navy-red-devils.ht...
If the year actually was 1958 then they'll be 800 NAS.
As a straight winged jet they weren't particularly good in the Air to Air role and only served with the RN from 1953-58, however they were used successfully in the Air to Ground role during Suez.
They were also used by the Indians with great success in the Indo-Pakistani wars of 1965 and 1971 in the Anti-Shipping role. They were notable for being the only type to suffer no losses.
They were also used by the Indians with great success in the Indo-Pakistani wars of 1965 and 1971 in the Anti-Shipping role. They were notable for being the only type to suffer no losses.
Eric Mc said:
They were an lot better than the Supermarine Attacker.
It always struck me as sad that Supermarine built virtually nothing of any great note after the Spitfire. Not much before either, unless you count the seaplane racers, and I always regard them as part of the Spitfire evolution.I can't actually think of much in common between the racers and the Spitfire - the 'R' engine was nothing like a Merlin; IIRC it was the ancestor of the Griffon.
Supermarine built a lot of flying boats - the clue is in the name - and the Walrus seems to crop up quite a lot. Still, if you're only gong to have two winners, they picked two good ones.
Also seem to remember they had plans for a 4-engined bomber.
Supermarine built a lot of flying boats - the clue is in the name - and the Walrus seems to crop up quite a lot. Still, if you're only gong to have two winners, they picked two good ones.
Also seem to remember they had plans for a 4-engined bomber.
Supermarine were essentially a seaplane and flying boat builder before the war. They built some handy aircraft of that type which served the RAF and Royal Navy faithfully - the Southampton, the Stranraer and the Walrus were very good aeroplanes.
Very much was expected of their four engined bomber project but the prototype was destroyed in a bombing raid in 1940 and, with so much pressure on the company to build more Spitfires, they never resurrected the bomber.
Also, once Mitchell had died, much of the aeronautical genius that lay in the company was lost. Joe Smith, who became the chief designer after Mitchell's death, did wonders to get the mass production of the Spitfire up to speed. But he wasn't able to design a worthy successor to the Spitfire.
Very much was expected of their four engined bomber project but the prototype was destroyed in a bombing raid in 1940 and, with so much pressure on the company to build more Spitfires, they never resurrected the bomber.
Also, once Mitchell had died, much of the aeronautical genius that lay in the company was lost. Joe Smith, who became the chief designer after Mitchell's death, did wonders to get the mass production of the Spitfire up to speed. But he wasn't able to design a worthy successor to the Spitfire.
Thanks for the info G15 Girl. Never realised the Indians used them in an anti shipping role; would like to see more details about that.
Eric, I'm guessing there's some PE in your nice model - e.g wing roots? Last time I built a seahawk was that Airfix one back in the 80s. Seem to recall it was in black as a FRADU or similar mob
Eric, I'm guessing there's some PE in your nice model - e.g wing roots? Last time I built a seahawk was that Airfix one back in the 80s. Seem to recall it was in black as a FRADU or similar mob
Thanks for the info G15 Girl. Never realised the Indians used them in an anti shipping role; would like to see more details about that.
Eric, I'm guessing there's some PE in your nice model - e.g wing roots? Last time I built a seahawk was that Airfix one back in the 80s. Seem to recall it was in black as a FRADU or similar mob
Eric, I'm guessing there's some PE in your nice model - e.g wing roots? Last time I built a seahawk was that Airfix one back in the 80s. Seem to recall it was in black as a FRADU or similar mob
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