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Holy shit, just been chased by one, kept very close to my bumper.
Anyone care to elaborate on it's specs, certain was turbo'd (could here th dump valve - even over my v8 at 5K rpm).
Furthermore, is it anyone on here. Nice friendly wave at the end tho!!
Ah, that's what summers about!!
Steve
Anyone care to elaborate on it's specs, certain was turbo'd (could here th dump valve - even over my v8 at 5K rpm).
Furthermore, is it anyone on here. Nice friendly wave at the end tho!!
Ah, that's what summers about!!
Steve
Standard about 220bhp, tuneable up to around 350. They are quick-ish cars but trust me are the most godawful things to drive. Drove my friends one and it felt exactly like a granny pulsar to drive, except everything happened in fast-forward. Everything was mushy, no feedback... no wonder so many eople are killed in them in this part of the world.... the car ain't designed to handle the power it puts out... no wonder it was a rallying failure
They have 227bhp standard and will do the o-60 sprint in 5.1 seconds. Very easy to tune, with an up in the boost and better breathing they will kick out 300bhp. They are 4wd with thw bias towards the front, and have the worst brakes of any car, ever. Very very fast, quite decent handling, shit brakes.
I had one and chased a Chim 500, there was no chance he was getting away, I also edged past a Tuscan in the little fella (after the smug owner turned round and him and his mate laughed
). Basically a nutty jap turboed car, never enjoyed rally success becuase of a big heavy front end and an intercooler on top of the engine. That and I don't think Nissan could really be arsed. Quicker than an impreza in an equal state of tune.
I had one and chased a Chim 500, there was no chance he was getting away, I also edged past a Tuscan in the little fella (after the smug owner turned round and him and his mate laughed
). Basically a nutty jap turboed car, never enjoyed rally success becuase of a big heavy front end and an intercooler on top of the engine. That and I don't think Nissan could really be arsed. Quicker than an impreza in an equal state of tune.
It may have been me, I was chasing a Tiv with a "Toy ***" numberplate up the A1, although there was a GTIR meet on sat in St Albans so...
True about the brakes, crap handling? Only when being driven by a crap driver.
I have 290bhp, uprated 310mm brakes and stuff. 0-60 4.8secs and 0-100 12.5 secs.
And they bust a lot.
True about the brakes, crap handling? Only when being driven by a crap driver.
I have 290bhp, uprated 310mm brakes and stuff. 0-60 4.8secs and 0-100 12.5 secs.
And they bust a lot.
Yeah, before my dramatic Subaru death I had a little joust with a similar car in Bradford a few weeks ago. Straight line speed it had my Scooby licked, but on the twisties the scooby appeared to have the edge although as with all these things there was very little in it.
Bang for buck, it has to be great value.
Bang for buck, it has to be great value.
moleamol: Believe you about keeping with a Chimaera 500, though unless your GTiR was heavily modified he should have left you in a straight line (the 450 will do -60mph in 4.7 and 0-100mph in 11.2).
However, I'd like to know what modifications you made to your motor if you 'edged' past a Tuscan with 350bhp and a 0-60mph time of 4.3s and 0-100mph in less than 10s!?!?!? This is especially true since as the speeds increase your disadvantage grows since outright power becomes more important, the traction advantage of 4WD disappears (and in fact the extra drivetrain friction saps power) and GTiR's have the aerodynamics of a brick. Sorry, just can't believe that unless you had something like that bloke on the TV who whipped the Viper with his 450bhp GTiR or the bloke in the Tuscan wasn't maxing it!
roadsweeper
However, I'd like to know what modifications you made to your motor if you 'edged' past a Tuscan with 350bhp and a 0-60mph time of 4.3s and 0-100mph in less than 10s!?!?!? This is especially true since as the speeds increase your disadvantage grows since outright power becomes more important, the traction advantage of 4WD disappears (and in fact the extra drivetrain friction saps power) and GTiR's have the aerodynamics of a brick. Sorry, just can't believe that unless you had something like that bloke on the TV who whipped the Viper with his 450bhp GTiR or the bloke in the Tuscan wasn't maxing it!
roadsweeper
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moleamol: Believe you about keeping with a Chimaera 500, though unless your GTiR was heavily modified he should have left you in a straight line (the 450 will do -60mph in 4.7 and 0-100mph in 11.2).
However, I'd like to know what modifications you made to your motor if you 'edged' past a Tuscan with 350bhp and a 0-60mph time of 4.3s and 0-100mph in less than 10s!?!?!? This is especially true since as the speeds increase your disadvantage grows since outright power becomes more important, the traction advantage of 4WD disappears (and in fact the extra drivetrain friction saps power) and GTiR's have the aerodynamics of a brick. Sorry, just can't believe that unless you had something like that bloke on the TV who whipped the Viper with his 450bhp GTiR or the bloke in the Tuscan wasn't maxing it!
roadsweeper
I agree. I am surprised that I was up with the Tiv but I wouldnt even bother with a griff, never mind a bonkers V8 mo' fo' Tuscan!
Well, my GTiR was quite heavily modified in Japan before it came over here. Different cams, ecu, boost hike etc. When I was chasing the Chim he was in front of me and it was down country roads, he could obviously drive but there was never any big long straights otherwise he would have got the edge. As it was I could just follow him and thought well if he can get round the corner at this speed, so can I. It was a lovely day too, last summer, he had the roof down and at the end we were both grinning like mentalists and there was a friendly wave.
As for the Tuscan, I'm presuming it was the lowest spec engine you can get in a Tuscan (not sure what that is). He started pulling away and I just said to my mate "I've got no chance" but floored it anyway, it was down a dual carriageway and I was behind him. No idea how because this was a straight line. Kept behind him up to about 100 and then just edged past him and at about 130ish we both slowed for a roundabout, after that we both gave up. To be honest though he seemed to have bought the Tuscan as a posing pouch, maybe he was just too much of a pussy to be able to fully appreciate the beast. He was completely ignorant at the end and smug at the beginning, which is not what I've come to expect from Tiv owners. So although I beat him I'm not saying I'd beat every Tuscan. It was much more fun chasing a Chim with a good friendly driver anyway!
As for the Tuscan, I'm presuming it was the lowest spec engine you can get in a Tuscan (not sure what that is). He started pulling away and I just said to my mate "I've got no chance" but floored it anyway, it was down a dual carriageway and I was behind him. No idea how because this was a straight line. Kept behind him up to about 100 and then just edged past him and at about 130ish we both slowed for a roundabout, after that we both gave up. To be honest though he seemed to have bought the Tuscan as a posing pouch, maybe he was just too much of a pussy to be able to fully appreciate the beast. He was completely ignorant at the end and smug at the beginning, which is not what I've come to expect from Tiv owners. So although I beat him I'm not saying I'd beat every Tuscan. It was much more fun chasing a Chim with a good friendly driver anyway!
Hi moleamol
I think there is some confusion here. The basic Tuscan is as I described, i.e. 350bhp, 175mph and 0-100 sub 10s. It is certainly faster than a Chimaera in a straight line (with the possible exception of a 500 up to about 100mph). The only other models are the Tuscan S (390bhp, 0-60mph in 3.9s, 0-100mph in 9.1s) and the forthcoming Tuscan R (440bhp, 0-60mph in 3.7, 0-100mph <8s). You'd really need something VERY special to take a Tuscan R in a straight line, e.g. a £250,000 Pagani Zonda C12S!!
As a guideline, a Tuscan should pip a Ferrari 360 Modena in terms of ouright acceleration and would be close to a Porsche 911 Turbo.
The thing that's odd is that you only started to edge past when the speed exceed 100mph - that's exactly the point at which he should really have rubbed his power, aerodynamic and low drivetrain friction advntages in. It just doesn't make sense. Unless your GTiR had about 350-400bhp I can't see you accelerating over the 100mph mark faster than a Tuscan can. It sounds like he was indeed just a pussy - people like him shouldn't be allowed to drive TVRs!
(I bullied an M3 out of the way yesterday which was quite funny, especially as I passed him approaching 110mph in 3rd!! 
)
gtir: Not being pedantic (promise!) but just thought I woud point out that the Tuscan has a straight six (as does the Tamora) and not a V8 like other TVRs (e.g. Chimaera, Cerbera).
roadsweeper.
I think there is some confusion here. The basic Tuscan is as I described, i.e. 350bhp, 175mph and 0-100 sub 10s. It is certainly faster than a Chimaera in a straight line (with the possible exception of a 500 up to about 100mph). The only other models are the Tuscan S (390bhp, 0-60mph in 3.9s, 0-100mph in 9.1s) and the forthcoming Tuscan R (440bhp, 0-60mph in 3.7, 0-100mph <8s). You'd really need something VERY special to take a Tuscan R in a straight line, e.g. a £250,000 Pagani Zonda C12S!!
As a guideline, a Tuscan should pip a Ferrari 360 Modena in terms of ouright acceleration and would be close to a Porsche 911 Turbo. The thing that's odd is that you only started to edge past when the speed exceed 100mph - that's exactly the point at which he should really have rubbed his power, aerodynamic and low drivetrain friction advntages in. It just doesn't make sense. Unless your GTiR had about 350-400bhp I can't see you accelerating over the 100mph mark faster than a Tuscan can. It sounds like he was indeed just a pussy - people like him shouldn't be allowed to drive TVRs!
(I bullied an M3 out of the way yesterday which was quite funny, especially as I passed him approaching 110mph in 3rd!! ) gtir: Not being pedantic (promise!
) but just thought I woud point out that the Tuscan has a straight six (as does the Tamora) and not a V8 like other TVRs (e.g. Chimaera, Cerbera). roadsweeper.
Yeah, I really do think it was just him. And I agree, he shouldn't have been allowed to drive it. TVR should take potential owners out and if they drive it like a pussy not let them buy. I think he might have been scared of messing his hair up He must have been bad because it was on a straight, empty dual carriageway. The GTiR had about 326 bhp. But that would still be no match for a sub 10 second 0-100 car. If you thought he was bad in a straight line though you should have seen him round the oundabout
Don't get me wrong, the Tuscan is my favourite car, ever. I would rather have a Tuscan than any other car ever made. It's just that this happened and I thought I'd tell the story
He must have been bad because it was on a straight, empty dual carriageway. The GTiR had about 326 bhp. But that would still be no match for a sub 10 second 0-100 car. If you thought he was bad in a straight line though you should have seen him round the oundabout Don't get me wrong, the Tuscan is my favourite car, ever. I would rather have a Tuscan than any other car ever made. It's just that this happened and I thought I'd tell the story
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you told the story!! It just goes to show that the car isn't everything, the driver still matters! 326bhp is pretty damn impressive - to be honest I wouldn't have been surprised if that could have cracked 10s to 100mph particularly given the traction off the line and the gearing. 
How heavy are the GTiRs then? The power-to-weight ratio must have been storming!
I'm actually just selling my second car (Golf GTi) as I work in London these days (live in Cheshire) and so only get to drive the Chimaera at weekends. However, if I was looking for a hot hatch I have to admit that I'd seriously consider a GTiR - not much that could stay with a modded one. I do like Integrale's though so we have similar taste in that sense!
I've been planning to upgrade to a Tuscan S next year.
It looks like I better had now - don't want any upstarts in tweaked hot hatches whupping me now do I?!
roadsweeper.
How heavy are the GTiRs then? The power-to-weight ratio must have been storming! I'm actually just selling my second car (Golf GTi) as I work in London these days (live in Cheshire) and so only get to drive the Chimaera at weekends. However, if I was looking for a hot hatch I have to admit that I'd seriously consider a GTiR - not much that could stay with a modded one. I do like Integrale's though so we have similar taste in that sense!
I've been planning to upgrade to a Tuscan S next year.
It looks like I better had now - don't want any upstarts in tweaked hot hatches whupping me now do I?! roadsweeper.
The kerb weight is around 1220kg, so standard I think they are 176 bhp/per tonne, same as the Escort Cossie. (without massiv lag of course!)
Its like anything, you become used to the power even if you only drive it at weekends, like you and I do.
I want to push mine up to 350bhp, and that will mean a frontmounted intercooler and bigger turbo. I already have the uprated engine and other stuff.
Saying that, I think 330bhp is more sensible as the rest of the car is over 10 years old now, and they have a reputation for going to the Nissan garage in the sky....
Its like anything, you become used to the power even if you only drive it at weekends, like you and I do.
I want to push mine up to 350bhp, and that will mean a frontmounted intercooler and bigger turbo. I already have the uprated engine and other stuff.
Saying that, I think 330bhp is more sensible as the rest of the car is over 10 years old now, and they have a reputation for going to the Nissan garage in the sky....
Just to expand on things; I wasn't exactly kaning it (rarely went about 4.5 - 5K rpm) but I backed-off when I got up to *** mph, since I enjoy having a license.
I reckon the 0-30 time on the 450 is better since I managed to pull away from a him after a roundabout.
I would love the challenge the guy on a straight sprint with PROPER TRACK conditions rather than a busy dual carridgeway. Just curiosity though.
All good fun tho.
Steve
I reckon the 0-30 time on the 450 is better since I managed to pull away from a him after a roundabout.
I would love the challenge the guy on a straight sprint with PROPER TRACK conditions rather than a busy dual carridgeway. Just curiosity though.
All good fun tho.
Steve
Get the Tuscan! I'm only 23 so the integrale is my limit at the moment. Having said that it is a bit of a beast. The full race suspension has made the handling even better, plus the 4wd system is superb, and rear wheel bias It is not the quickest car in a straight line but round corners it damn near is I'd take anything on in the grale as it is just so quick in virtually every scenario (including track). The only time I might struggle would be a quarter or something, it is by no means slow in a straight line though
It is not the quickest car in a straight line but round corners it damn near is I'd take anything on in the grale as it is just so quick in virtually every scenario (including track). The only time I might struggle would be a quarter or something, it is by no means slow in a straight line though 
Being 23 is no excuse for not having a TVR moleamol! 
I'm 24 and have a Chimaera but there are people on here who are about my age who have Tuscans and so on - very nice! I keep the green-eyed monster at bay 
by reminding myself that it's paid for and that last year I was a student who could only dream of owning my own house. But it only softens the blow a little. You can't imagine how many times I've wondered whether it would have been better to just rent or something and get a nice shiney Tuscan instead! Can't complain about the Chimaera though - it's been fantastic and I'd recommend getting one to anyone (as long as they intend to drive it properly! ). There are some pics on my profile if you want a look.
The real trouble is that now I desperately want a Tuscan R and £75k is a bit steep given my current income.
roadsweeper.
I'm 24 and have a Chimaera but there are people on here who are about my age who have Tuscans and so on - very nice! I keep the green-eyed monster at bay by reminding myself that it's paid for and that last year I was a student who could only dream of owning my own house. But it only softens the blow a little. You can't imagine how many times I've wondered whether it would have been better to just rent or something and get a nice shiney Tuscan instead! Can't complain about the Chimaera though - it's been fantastic and I'd recommend getting one to anyone (as long as they intend to drive it properly! ). There are some pics on my profile if you want a look. The real trouble is that now I desperately want a Tuscan R and £75k is a bit steep given my current income.
roadsweeper.
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