What GPS unit instead of phone?
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budgie smuggler said:
These look good for the cash. Do they allow export of data as GPX (to import into Endo/Strava?)
Yep. You can save the routes straight off the device and then upload them to whichever 3rd party site you like. You can take out whichever file type you like, GPX, TCX etc.pablo said:
can you follow a route on the Bryton? I know the OP hasnt asked for it but its a really useful feature and if you havent got it, you will want it when you start riding longer into areas you are not so familiar with when you are reliant on paper maps or road signs!
You can't follow a route, no. The Rider 20 is the basic model that records all the data with display on screen. It's also ANT+ compatible which is a HUGE benefit over the Garmin 200s.Viperzs said:
You can't follow a route, no. The Rider 20 is the basic model that records all the data with display on screen. It's also ANT+ compatible which is a HUGE benefit over the Garmin 200s.
What's ANT+ when its at home?Pricing up online and theres only a 5er difference between the Garmin200 and Rider20E.
Bryton are new to me, I aint heard of them until the other day where Garmin are up there with the market leaders when it comes to GPS and mapping.
Are there upgrades or features available for upgrade from both units?
Viperzs said:
budgie smuggler said:
These look good for the cash. Do they allow export of data as GPX (to import into Endo/Strava?)
Yep. You can save the routes straight off the device and then upload them to whichever 3rd party site you like. You can take out whichever file type you like, GPX, TCX etc.
If you're looking at Garmin, be aware that the thieving toerags don't do any sort of repairs, so if your Edge 800 - to take my example - develops a fault out of warranty (which is only 12 months) you're forced to pay said thieving toerags £80+ once you add in return shipping for a refurbished unit instead. 
Needless to say, guess what happens to the unit you send back? That's right, they spend a couple of quid fixing the problem, and hey presto, another refurbished unit to sell!
I very much doubt I would ever buy another Garmin as a result.
Needless to say, guess what happens to the unit you send back? That's right, they spend a couple of quid fixing the problem, and hey presto, another refurbished unit to sell!
I very much doubt I would ever buy another Garmin as a result.
Kermit power said:
If you're looking at Garmin, be aware that the thieving toerags don't do any sort of repairs, so if your Edge 800 - to take my example - develops a fault out of warranty (which is only 12 months) you're forced to pay said thieving toerags £80+ once you add in return shipping for a refurbished unit instead.
Needless to say, guess what happens to the unit you send back? That's right, they spend a couple of quid fixing the problem, and hey presto, another refurbished unit to sell!
I very much doubt I would ever buy another Garmin as a result.
Surely that falls below the EU laws regarding sale of goods and fit for purpose ?Needless to say, guess what happens to the unit you send back? That's right, they spend a couple of quid fixing the problem, and hey presto, another refurbished unit to sell!
I very much doubt I would ever buy another Garmin as a result.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1...
The Walrus said:
Surely that falls below the EU laws regarding sale of goods and fit for purpose ?
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1...
It does, but all the emphasis is on the retailer rather than the manufacturer. In this instance, the retailer did make a compensatory gesture, but by having this policy, Garmin are ensuring that their retailers fight much more against the customer than they would if they could get it easily repaired.http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1...
Kermit power said:
If you're looking at Garmin, be aware that the thieving toerags don't do any sort of repairs, so if your Edge 800 - to take my example - develops a fault out of warranty (which is only 12 months) you're forced to pay said thieving toerags £80+ once you add in return shipping for a refurbished unit instead.
Needless to say, guess what happens to the unit you send back? That's right, they spend a couple of quid fixing the problem, and hey presto, another refurbished unit to sell!
I very much doubt I would ever buy another Garmin as a result.
I put these things in the same bracket as mobile phones. They come in the same sorts of sizes and have simliar price brackets. My HTC was worth about £300 when I got it. If I’d had a problem with it in the first 12 months then I’d have taken it back to Vodafone and they would have sorted it out – no doubt with no small amount of messing around and prevarication. During that time I had insurance for loss, damage and theft. Needless to say, guess what happens to the unit you send back? That's right, they spend a couple of quid fixing the problem, and hey presto, another refurbished unit to sell!
I very much doubt I would ever buy another Garmin as a result.
After 12 months if I’d taken it back to Voda with a fault they would probably tell me where to stick it. The insurance would still be in place though. I’m not saying it’s acceptable but I was aware of all this when I got the phone.
From Garmin’s perspective; they have no idea what caused the malfunction. They also don’t know how often, how or where the device has been used. It could be broken for no reason after a bit of light use or it could’ve died during the latest crash after 12 months of regular use mountain biking.
I’ve dropped my 200 several times now and thankfully it still functions. If I had one of the bundles worth a couple of hundred I’d probably think about including it on some sort of gadget insurance once it passes the 12 month period or if I was constantly using it in situations where it was more likely to get kicked around just in general use.
FWIW I’m not disagreeing with you about Garmin. Their warranty and repairs polices and processes could definitely be improved. I know a couple of people who use the watches who’ve had constant problems with them but have just got used to the prospect of having to get them repaired or replaced every 15 to 24 months. It seems that generally people are prepared to accept that hundreds of pounds of electronic devices have a life of 12 months now.
As an aside I've just looked at John Lewis to see if they do the Edge range as then presumably you'd not get the best online price at the start but would benefit from their improved warrantly. JL do some Garmins but none of the Edges. Perhaps the solution would be to get them from somewhere who would be better to deal with after the year is up?
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