The various TVR tuners.........
The various TVR tuners.........
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NickM450

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2,639 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Why do they not seem to get along?

I really hope this doesn't open a can of worms and start some king war/slagging match. The more I get into the world of TVR and the associated scene, the more I want to know.

From the threads I see and what I hear when I meet up with fellow owners the more obvious it seems to me that there is a real polar divide between the regular tuners. Agreements are rare to come by and each one really does have a different view on almost all tuning methods, sometimes bordering on insulting.

It's much the same with owners, they tend to stick with one garage/tuner and rarely venture beyond that, when this is said to someone who uses someone else, much sucking through teeth and head shaking begins. I kind of understand this, maybe people want to keep all their tuning etc. in one place.

I thought we had mostly simple cars so the options on tuning wouldn't very that much.

I was only pondering because of the news of TVR coming back to life (maybe), then a dealership network may be needed again (wishful thinking I know).

Nick

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Possibly because they all operate in a limited market place with an ever dwindling number of potential clients and their livelihoods depend on getting cars in for work at their place and not the competition?


V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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ILoveMondeo said:
Possibly because they all operate in a limited market place with an ever dwindling number of potential clients and their livelihoods depend on getting cars in for work at their place and not the competition?
yes I's day that just about sums it up.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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V8 GRF said:
ILoveMondeo said:
Possibly because they all operate in a limited market place with an ever dwindling number of potential clients and their livelihoods depend on getting cars in for work at their place and not the competition?
yes I's day that just about sums it up.
Whilst I'd agree with that now - what about in TVR's heyday...? There has been plenty of toy throwing over the years.

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Podie said:
Whilst I'd agree with that now - what about in TVR's heyday...? There has been plenty of toy throwing over the years.
Not a lot different to today really, a lot of the dealers and indies went to the wall when tvr folded.

As a dealer network it was never policed like a big marque would be and the indies an pretty much do and say what they liked.

I should add I'm definitely no authority on this just looking in from the outside. The whole network and tvr themselves was a bit if a jumble for years.


Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Having owned a TVR for over a decade, I've probably used the vast majority of tuners as some point.

Experiences have been mixed, to say the least.

I've had great experiences where others are not happy - and visa versa. Find someone who works for you and stick with them.

swisstoni

23,897 posts

308 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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It's called human nature. Google it.

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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swisstoni said:
It's called human nature. Google it.
I googled "it" and it came up with the Steven King film 'it' is that relevant? wink

Buzz

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Podie said:
I've had great experiences where others are not happy - and visa versa. Find someone who works for you and stick with them.
Ditto that...

Buzz


swisstoni

23,897 posts

308 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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BuzzBillsberry said:
swisstoni said:
It's called human nature. Google it.
I googled "it" and it came up with the Steven King film 'it' is that relevant? wink

Buzz
Sorry. Must have been feeling a bit chippy when I wrote that. The Google it comment was unnecessarily pointed wobble

Gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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I blame the customers and the interweb

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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BuzzBillsberry said:
swisstoni said:
It's called human nature. Google it.
I googled "it" and it came up with the Steven King film 'it' is that relevant? wink

Buzz
hehe

gruffalo

8,147 posts

255 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Gazzab said:
I blame the customers and the interweb
yep this about sums it up, they are all competeing for our business in an age where a long earled reputation can be easily damaged by a bad report on the internet, be it a true or false report.

They live in a dangerous enviroment hardly surprising they are warey of each other whilst also in many cases interdependant.

Gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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gruffalo said:
Gazzab said:
I blame the customers and the interweb
yep this about sums it up, they are all competeing for our business in an age where a long earled reputation can be easily damaged by a bad report on the internet, be it a true or false report.

They live in a dangerous enviroment hardly surprising they are warey of each other whilst also in many cases interdependant.
It's 'belief' v fact syndrome.

Englishman

2,253 posts

239 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Did you mean tuners or dealers?

NickM450

Original Poster:

2,639 posts

229 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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ILoveMondeo said:
Possibly because they all operate in a limited market place with an ever dwindling number of potential clients and their livelihoods depend on getting cars in for work at their place and not the competition?
That's a good point. I never really looked at it purely from the business point of view. I guess they are all after our custom. Still doesn't really explain why they don't get along or disagree so strongly at times.

Englishman said:
Did you mean tuners or dealers?
More the tuners. I was under the impression though that some of the old dealers became the tuners we see now.

Gazzab said:
gruffalo said:
Gazzab said:
I blame the customers and the interweb
yep this about sums it up, they are all competeing for our business in an age where a long earled reputation can be easily damaged by a bad report on the internet, be it a true or false report.

They live in a dangerous enviroment hardly surprising they are warey of each other whilst also in many cases interdependant.
It's 'belief' v fact syndrome.
Would you care to expand on that please? I am not being deliberately facetious, I really would like to know.

Just want to point out, I have had my car for just over a year. I have used several tuners and parts dealers. I have had nothing but good service from them. All very helpful and no end of useful hints and tips. I also have a brilliant Indy that I use and couldn't be happier with him or the service I receive.

Nick

Edited by NickM450 on Saturday 9th November 13:08

Gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Expand on which point?
Am saying that some reputations are based on hearsay and the odd bad experience. Chinese whispers comes into play and then people believe a dealer / tuner / servicer is poor (or good) for no real factual reason.

NickM450

Original Poster:

2,639 posts

229 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Gazzab said:
Expand on which point?
Am saying that some reputations are based on hearsay and the odd bad experience. Chinese whispers comes into play and then people believe a dealer / tuner / servicer is poor (or good) for no real factual reason.
That exactly smile