Why Emirates buying so many A380,?
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After having taken a few direct A380 flights to the Far East there's no way that I want to stop halfway
anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
To me it looks like expansion. They have got rid of some 8-10 year old A330s of late, but not the volume of A380s that they are taking on. They do run A340s and B777s which have similar range as the A380, albeit with less passengers on board.
You can see the fleet list here, AFAIK this is maintained by the spotters/geeks but it does come in useful for checking out who owns what! http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/Emirates
You can see the fleet list here, AFAIK this is maintained by the spotters/geeks but it does come in useful for checking out who owns what! http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/Emirates
tescorank said:
After having taken a few direct A380 flights to the Far East there's no way that I want to stop halfway
anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
It's all part of the long term plan to provide for an economic future for the UAE once the oil runs out. The infrastructure to get to Dubai is now in place - Emirates can afford to run the A380s at a bit of a loss for now, but the idea is that in future years people will be going there as a destination - for finance, industry, technology, education.anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
davepoth said:
It's all part of the long term plan to provide for an economic future for the UAE once the oil runs out.
emirates is wholly owned by the government of dubai, not the UAE. dubai's income from oil & gas is less than 5% GDP. they changed tack years ago. emirates have a lot of old aircraft operating on non-sexy routes - west african coast, crap bits of asia etc. many routes at 10hrs+ and fully packed out on the daily flight. i imagine the a380 can be used to increase profitability on these routes on which they have next to no competition.
tescorank said:
After having taken a few direct A380 flights to the Far East there's no way that I want to stop halfway
anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
Quite - Singapore airlines are better anyway.anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
tescorank said:
waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge.
The two occasions I've flown out that way (UK to Oz) we were in the terminal for less than an hour. By the time you've got off the aircraft, gone through security, had a wee and gone back to the gate they are boarding you again.shirt said:
davepoth said:
It's all part of the long term plan to provide for an economic future for the UAE once the oil runs out.
emirates is wholly owned by the government of dubai, not the UAE. dubai's income from oil & gas is less than 5% GDP. they changed tack years ago. 
The full legend for that graph can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_Arab_Emir...
As you can see, the UAE is still very heavily dependent upon hydrocarbon revenues.
Dubai, read UAE lies within 4hrs flying time of a third of the worlds population. Double that flight time to 8 and that increases to two thirds of the worlds population.
Sometimes the flights would be better suited flying straight to India rather than going via Dubai. Dubai is a hub, LHR is a hub. Very few of the passengers that go through these airports are from their respective countries. Flying direct from LHR, FRA, AMS etc is great if you live within 50 miles of them.
Emirates is simply taking that internal flight which the majority of us need to take from regional airports and routing it to DXB!
Sometimes the flights would be better suited flying straight to India rather than going via Dubai. Dubai is a hub, LHR is a hub. Very few of the passengers that go through these airports are from their respective countries. Flying direct from LHR, FRA, AMS etc is great if you live within 50 miles of them.
Emirates is simply taking that internal flight which the majority of us need to take from regional airports and routing it to DXB!
davepoth said:
It's all part of the long term plan to provide for an economic future for the UAE once the oil runs out. The infrastructure to get to Dubai is now in place - Emirates can afford to run the A380s at a bit of a loss for now, but the idea is that in future years people will be going there as a destination - for finance, industry, technology, education.
If they want to be a destination in itself, the UAE may want to think about not jailing women for adultury, when they complain to police that they have been raped by someone who they are able to identify, who then turns out to be married. This has happened more than once now. creampuff said:
If they want to be a destination in itself, the UAE may want to think about not jailing women for adultury, when they complain to police that they have been raped by someone who they are able to identify, who then turns out to be married. This has happened more than once now.
What are you talking about? They ARE a destination.tescorank said:
After having taken a few direct A380 flights to the Far East there's no way that I want to stop halfway
anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
Capacity is their main reason for buying them. They can probably fill an A380 with every flight from LHR, LGW, BHX and MAN. anymore and waste 3 to 4 hours walking around some middle eastern airport lounge. I can only think that Europe/Far East is one of the most used routes so why is Emirates buying long distance A380's?
For long distance they use their 777s I think.
Chilli said:
What are you talking about? They ARE a destination.
A destination for Pakistani and Bangadeshi manual workers, Chinese and Russian hookers and the occasional westerners who like the heat and are unlikely to fall foul of the UAEs laws from the dark ages while they are on a short trip. davepoth said:
Dubai is one of the Emirates of the UAE; the emir of Dubai is the Prime Minister of the UAE. It's like a non-democratic version of the USA, in that all of the emirates have a stake in the whole.
ish. in practice it works more like the EU in that each emirate retains the bulk of it's wealth. abu dhabi is by far the richest due to holding the vast majority of the oil & gas reserves. they bailed dubai out of the hole a few years ago with a $60bn loan. dubai's income from O&G is around 3% of GDP.They're not intending to keep their A380s too long so need new ones to replace the older ones as they go.
Not sure if there's much of a market for 2nd hand ones or if Emirates lease or buy outright.
The Middle East airlines do seem to be locked into pissing contests with each other also, maybe this has something to do with it.
Not sure if there's much of a market for 2nd hand ones or if Emirates lease or buy outright.
The Middle East airlines do seem to be locked into pissing contests with each other also, maybe this has something to do with it.
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