Racelogic Traction Control

[Blodders]

Has anybody fitted Racelogic Traction control to a Mark 1 Tuscan 4 litre. If so interested to understand if it is worth doing and if there are any pitfalls regarding its fitting. Thanks Fred

Edited by Blodders on Sunday 29th September 16:43

[scotty_d]

What power is your mk1 making? My red rose is a real 400bhp ish and never felt like it is too much to handle even in the wet. Good road tyres would be my first port of call.

[RyanW]

Second that: never felt that 400bhp was too much even on the track, good tyres make the world of difference.

[Blodders]

The car has a Red Rose engine putting out about 380 bhp plus when last put on a dyno. New Toyos all round which made a massive difference. However I do still the find back wheels spin in first gear (and sometimes second depending on surface) on a very dry road when you floor it and as expected in damp/wet even more wheel spin!! Curious to find out if it is a mod worth doing as on the face of it could bring some real benefit although I might argue removes much of the fun of a TVR .

Edited by Blodders on Monday 30th September 13:02

[jamieduff1981]

I know a lot of people on the internet seem to like Toyos but I really don't rate their road tyres whatsoever. When their proponets say "Good value for money" I hear "cheap rubbish". I have driven on them, and have never liked them.

Just burn the treads off those Toyos and replace with Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2. Mine cope with full throttle in 1st gear of my 4.5 Cerbera in on warm (by Scottish standards) dry roads, and only squirm slightly on cool dry roads. They almost take the fun out of TVR driving on warm summer roads.

[jev]

jamieduff1981 said:

I know a lot of people on the internet seem to like Toyos but I really don't rate their road tyres whatsoever. When their proponets say "Good value for money" I hear "cheap rubbish". I have driven on them, and have never liked them.

[NTEL]

jamieduff1981 said:

I know a lot of people on the internet seem to like Toyos but I really don't rate their road tyres whatsoever. When their proponets say "Good value for money" I hear "cheap rubbish". I have driven on them, and have never liked them.

Just burn the treads off those Toyos and replace with Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2. Mine cope with full throttle in 1st gear of my 4.5 Cerbera in on warm (by Scottish standards) dry roads, and only squirm slightly on cool dry roads. They almost take the fun out of TVR driving on warm summer roads.

I agree with most of that. Get some decent tyres and take some performance car driving lessons. You will reap the benefits.

Edited by NTEL on Monday 30th September 14:48

[Alpinestars]

Not fitted to a Tuscan, but I've got it on another car and I think it's really good.

[Blodders]

Thanks, did you install it yourself ot did a specialist company do it for you?

[Hoofa]

Had it on the chimaera until I up graded to motec with built in tcs. Despite what the butch matcho my foot is better brigade say it works well. You can dial in your slip and on one occasion stopped me pointing in the wrong direction. In my option in works and has stopped mine being too tail happy.

[lerd]

When I purchasedy mk1 Tuscan 2000 it had race logic fitted (still has) the car came with a re build to the engine but on the bill for the rebuild there is a note saying do not use fitted traction control as this has caused the engine to fail
So I have never switched it on , it's wired in still too. This was fitted in 2004 at a guess its an early type but I thought better not turn it on

[Alpinestars]

Blodders said:

Thanks, did you install it yourself ot did a specialist company do it for you?

It was already on the car when I bought it. In think race logic have a number of dealers who fit them.

[weeman6556]

Hello all,

Don't shoot me down in flames but seriously why put traction control on a TVR?
It's part of the image and is why people think your brave to own one. Personally the lack of traction control makes it exciting because you know you have to be a better driver than the person beside you to keep it facing the right way.

My personal opinion.

[m4tti]

lerd said:

When I purchasedy mk1 Tuscan 2000 it had race logic fitted (still has) the car came with a re build to the engine but on the bill for the rebuild there is a note saying do not use fitted traction control as this has caused the engine to fail
So I have never switched it on , it's wired in still too. This was fitted in 2004 at a guess its an early type but I thought better not turn it on

Interesting.... Here's what's quoted on their site with regard to how it works.

"The idea of cutting fuel to an engine sets alarm bells ringing in engine builders, as they all know that running a lean combustion mode will elevate in-cylinder temperatures very rapidly. The denser the air/fuel charge, the more heat the lean burn can generate. Therefore it is vital that a fuel cut system will not cause a lean burn.
Racelogic Traction Control prevents lean burn by removing 100% of the pulsed fuel delivery – essentially the affected cylinder takes a gulp of fresh air; the in-cylinder temperature remains virtually unaffected.
Prolonged fuel cut on one particular cylinder would cause scavenging of the petrol lining the inlet tracts, and when the next full fuel pulse arrived, it would be partially reduced in quantity by the re-wetting of these tracts. RL Traction Control rotates cylinder cutting to prevent this situation from occurring."

So taking this into consideration and the fact a standard speed six is running batch injection, it may well be possible to damage a cylinder due to running lean. Remember cylinder six is acknowledged as running hot (very) and if possible you should have your highest flowing injector on cylinder six.

Removing the fuel and its cooling effect does look like it could cause issues.

[Blodders]

Thanks guys, gives me something to think about!
Fred

[Walford]

m4tti said:

"The idea of cutting fuel to an engine sets alarm bells ringing in engine builders,

Yea it did 15 years ago, its the norm now and in motorsport it can be for quite a large percentage of the lap

also the next generation of supper hero,s are turning it down quite a lot like MM who is rumoured to set it to not cut in below 10kph wheel speed difference hence the rubber we are now seeing on track

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