Burnt Ecclescakes throws toys out of pram
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So Mr Ecclestone couldn't park his helicopter in the middle of the circuit, (apparently due to the weather) had to land a collosal 9 miles away at Turweston airfield, 'comandeered' a Land Rover, (the driver didn't know his way around Silverstone) got lost, alleging there were no ENTRANCE signs, despite the fact that 90,000 spectators managed quite sucessfully to find it. As a result the man who turned Silverstone around, Octogan's Rob Bain, resigned today after Ecclostone likened the event to a 'country fair'. Ecclestone obviuosly has his fingers in someone else's pie, which is evidenced in his dislike of the Silverstone venue. There has to be a British GP. F1 couldn't survive without it. Most of the major teams are based nearby the circuit, and changing venues will cause major problems. Donnington has been linked to a move, but the circuit could not possibly cope now with the circus, and neither could Brands. Bernie is obviously persuing another agenda, but what the hell is it?
Jas.
Jas.
quote:I heard that on Radio 4 this morning, but couldn't find it repeated anywhere in the press or on news websites - even the BBC. Maybe his man servant was listening to Radio 4 and made a phone call to put a stop to it?
Ecclostone likened the event to a 'country fair'.
quote:I saw TV footage of Mondello Park and it looked 'interesting' and ripe for development - big grants to be had from the EU (Eire being in the Teuro and all) and lots of people come to Ireland, and a big fat wedge in Bernie's pocket occupying the space where the rest of us keep our wedding tackle
Bernie is obviously persuing another agenda, but what the hell is it?
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...... Octogan's Rob Bain, resigned today after Ecclostone likened the event to a 'country fair'. Ecclestone obviuosly has his fingers in someone else's pie, which is evidenced in his dislike of the Silverstone venue....... but what the hell is it?
Jas.
More like he's put his finger in Rob Bains eye
. I haven't been to the GP for a few years now, far too expensive a day out and always bloody cold and wet
, it was never that bad to find your way round before and from what I understand the improvements were massive for this years event. I think it's more of the case of the little one throwing his financial weight around again, 'small mans complex' I liken it to, NEVER cross a small man with power
. If he was a child, and lets face it his reaction was childish, you'd give him a slap and tell him to grow up
. As for a hidden agenda then I agree with you, I'm sure a year or two back he was trying to get Brands reinstated as the home of the British GP. It wouldn't supprise me if one of his satellite comapanies doesn't have a big stake in there somewhere, that or one of his cronies does.
Obvioulsy all IMHO and if sMALL bERNIE happens across this, then I don't have two pennies to rub together, you are however more than welcome to take on my debts though
Harry
I have a theory about the whole Brands Hatch hoopla, and it goes like this. (This is just a personal opinion, not fact).
Bernie Ecclestone was well in with the Fulston family, (remeber John Fulston used to own Brands and when he died, it was handed over to Nicola) especially going back to his Brabham roots, when Bernie was team boss. It is very possible that Bernie owned a lot of shares in Brands, which stood to make a loss when Nicola Fulston, (who was obviously looking for a way out) sold up and moved to an island in the Carribean. The choice was simple, and the fix was easy. Tell the world that the British GP is moving back to Brands, the share price soars, (which indeed it did) sell their percentage of shares to the Octogan group for a huge sum of money, then pull out of the deal to switch F1 to Brands. The result is that Bernie and Nicola make a killing and Octogan own the Brands Hatch group. Even if Bernie didn't own shares in Brands, he would probably have done it as a favour to Nicola anyway.
The effects on Silverstone are twofold. Firstly, the old circuit gets significant development towards a world class venue, as they fight to retain the British GP which suits Bernie very nicely, and secondly, the BRDC who used to own Silverstone have a circuit on their hands which is now worthless in terms of future F1 revenue, they sell out to the Octogan group for a very reduced cost. The winners in the deal are now the Fulston family, Bernie Ecclestone, and the Octogan group. The loosers are the BRDC and the paying public.
Jas.
>> Edited by Paceracing on Monday 8th July 23:36
Bernie Ecclestone was well in with the Fulston family, (remeber John Fulston used to own Brands and when he died, it was handed over to Nicola) especially going back to his Brabham roots, when Bernie was team boss. It is very possible that Bernie owned a lot of shares in Brands, which stood to make a loss when Nicola Fulston, (who was obviously looking for a way out) sold up and moved to an island in the Carribean. The choice was simple, and the fix was easy. Tell the world that the British GP is moving back to Brands, the share price soars, (which indeed it did) sell their percentage of shares to the Octogan group for a huge sum of money, then pull out of the deal to switch F1 to Brands. The result is that Bernie and Nicola make a killing and Octogan own the Brands Hatch group. Even if Bernie didn't own shares in Brands, he would probably have done it as a favour to Nicola anyway.
The effects on Silverstone are twofold. Firstly, the old circuit gets significant development towards a world class venue, as they fight to retain the British GP which suits Bernie very nicely, and secondly, the BRDC who used to own Silverstone have a circuit on their hands which is now worthless in terms of future F1 revenue, they sell out to the Octogan group for a very reduced cost. The winners in the deal are now the Fulston family, Bernie Ecclestone, and the Octogan group. The loosers are the BRDC and the paying public.
Jas.
>> Edited by Paceracing on Monday 8th July 23:36
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I wonder, if when you are on deaths door being rich will make up for knowing the whole world thought you were a silly little tw@t.
Good point Phil.
In BE's case – I don't think he'd care.
What a miserable looking sod he is anyway.
No point in being rich if you don't give the impression of enjoying it ...
>> Edited by MikeyT on Tuesday 9th July 00:20
Well, nothing like a bit pf personal experience here: on Sunday Mrs Greg had a dentist appointment in Milton Keynes. Somehow both of us had forgotten the small matter of the GP, so we ran out of the house at 10:45 (appointment was for just after midday).
I've got to say, the roads around the circuit were empty, we sailed through Towcester, which is a no-go area on GP Sunday. Likewise, on the way out, there was temporary traffic control and police were on hand if things got um, out of hand. I say a big well done - the organisation this year was ten times better than previous years
It saddened me yesterday to hear that jumped up little whinger moaning about it. And all because it seems that he commandeered some local corn chewers' Land Rover. I simply do not accept the signposting was no good - it was well signposted from both the A43 and the A5, with police on hand. What does he want, for goodness sake ?
Bad eggs.
I've got to say, the roads around the circuit were empty, we sailed through Towcester, which is a no-go area on GP Sunday. Likewise, on the way out, there was temporary traffic control and police were on hand if things got um, out of hand. I say a big well done - the organisation this year was ten times better than previous years
It saddened me yesterday to hear that jumped up little whinger moaning about it. And all because it seems that he commandeered some local corn chewers' Land Rover. I simply do not accept the signposting was no good - it was well signposted from both the A43 and the A5, with police on hand. What does he want, for goodness sake ?
Bad eggs.
quote:It was reported on the front page of The Times yesterday:
I heard that on Radio 4 this morning, but couldn't find it repeated anywhere in the press or on news websites - even the BBC.
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By the time he arrived in the paddock, having missed his early appointments, he was furious, not what Silverstone officials wanted when the circuit is still on probation for the traffic chaos of previous years.
“The public here are treated in a very shabby way,” he said. “There were no signs out there and cars were all over the place going in the wrong direction. It was totally disorganised. I have never been to an event as bad as this. They don’t deserve a grand prix here. This is no more than a country fair masquerading as a world championship event. I drove all around the perimeter of the circuit and the only sign I saw said ‘Silverstone Exit’, which seems to be the message.”
Rob Bain was suitable exasperated with the little tw@t:
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Rob Bain, chief executive of Octagon, the grand prix promoters, said: “If we have one unhappy customer we are not happy but, because it is Bernie Ecclestone, we have a problem. It’s frustrating that one man can create a controversy that does not exist.”
Bernie is still turning the screw to make sure that the new pits complex gets built next year / whenever. Plans now probably include a luxury suite from which he can run his Empire.
Octagon & Bain: I never had a problem with tickets and arrangements with cicuits until the tentacles of the octopus englufed BH Leisure & Silverstone. Now it's a pain. :
And they killed the excellent Silverstone Historic Festival (was Coys) too. 
Octagon & Bain: I never had a problem with tickets and arrangements with cicuits until the tentacles of the octopus englufed BH Leisure & Silverstone. Now it's a pain. :
And they killed the excellent Silverstone Historic Festival (was Coys) too. 
What a moron. Common practice for events organisers is to sign post well for entry during time of people going to the event. They will layout the roads, traffic cones and police / organisers to get people in quickly and simply.
Then once the event is going they strip down the traffic control systems. Basically to simplify the traffic for local inhabitants (Silverstone and Newmarket for example). Then just before the mass leaving time they re-change the traffic control systems for rapid exit.
So, if you were to turn up to a major event late, then yes access will be somewhat difficult due to the change-over of the traffic control systems. Perfect sense and perfectly reasonable. I would expect that this is the norm for most events as it limits the problems for the locals as well as attendees to the event. It is a difficult situation of course.
So let me get this right - he was late, and insisted direct entrance to the circuit. Well, sod you pall. You should have got there sooner! Sorry, dont care if you are the queen or the pres of the USA - if you cant get there on time and have someone that can help you into the event then you deserve everything that you get. Actually, thinking about it - when was the last time that you heard of the queen coming late to something!!!
Monkey, moron, child and short arse. The event is there for the benefit of advertisers and fans - not for the benefit of one person. Dont care even if he is supposed to run the thing.... If I were Bernie, I would have been there well in advance to ensure the smooth running for everyone that paid the £500 to watch the race - not swan in late and kickup a stink!!!
Cheers,
Paul
Then once the event is going they strip down the traffic control systems. Basically to simplify the traffic for local inhabitants (Silverstone and Newmarket for example). Then just before the mass leaving time they re-change the traffic control systems for rapid exit.
So, if you were to turn up to a major event late, then yes access will be somewhat difficult due to the change-over of the traffic control systems. Perfect sense and perfectly reasonable. I would expect that this is the norm for most events as it limits the problems for the locals as well as attendees to the event. It is a difficult situation of course.
So let me get this right - he was late, and insisted direct entrance to the circuit. Well, sod you pall. You should have got there sooner! Sorry, dont care if you are the queen or the pres of the USA - if you cant get there on time and have someone that can help you into the event then you deserve everything that you get. Actually, thinking about it - when was the last time that you heard of the queen coming late to something!!!
Monkey, moron, child and short arse. The event is there for the benefit of advertisers and fans - not for the benefit of one person. Dont care even if he is supposed to run the thing.... If I were Bernie, I would have been there well in advance to ensure the smooth running for everyone that paid the £500 to watch the race - not swan in late and kickup a stink!!!
Cheers,
Paul
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