Grand Prix commentary

Grand Prix commentary

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andygo

Original Poster:

6,911 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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What on earth is that hysterical muppet James Allen on?

From the start to finish all he does is blather on trying to hype everything up.

Brundle is very good, but as for the rest of them, they really do seem to spoil it.

Take a leaf out of the two top guys who commentate on Moto GP - they are brilliant - just a couple of guys talking about something they know about, and a good product as well.

James Allen - sack him.

kenny320

1,598 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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His plugs for Coronation Street seem a bit unnecessary...

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

246 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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andygo said:
James Allen - sack him.

If you do that he'll turn up somewhere else and talk b0ll0x.

Gag is the answer, or a big shock so he looses the power of speech.

turbobloke

106,808 posts

266 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Just finished listening to the same inane hyperdrivel as you folks, and agree something must be done. Spoilt the armchair race experience big time

kenny320

1,598 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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turbobloke said:
Just finished listening to the same inane hyperdrivel as you folks, and agree something must be done. Spoilt the armchair race experience big time


If it wasn't for Brundle I would switched the sound off and listen to the commentary on Radio 5 instead. Its usually pretty good.

Eric Mc

122,689 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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And what was all this comment about "The Longest F1 Season Ever"? Nonsense, of course. In the 60s it wasn't unusual to have the first F1 race of the year in January and the last in November. And up until the early 70s there were often more than 20 F1 races in a season. OK, they didn't all count for the World Championship but in those days a race was a race.

wokkadriver

695 posts

248 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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I remember seeing the Mary Whitehouse Experience a few years ago, and in one brief sketch lampooning sport commentary, Hugh Dennis turns to the camera and says:

"And there is just enough time for Jim Rosenthal's sport quiz, 'which ITV sport presenter knows fk all about sport?'"

FunkyNige

9,060 posts

281 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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andygo said:
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Take a leaf out of the two top guys who commentate on Moto GP - they are brilliant - just a couple of guys talking about something they know about...


Until the racing becomes 'as close as you like!' or they start riding 'as fast as you like!' or 'as tight as you like!' or 'as annoying as you like!'.

or that could be the superbikes guy

zetec

4,607 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Boring GP as per usual. Nothing worthwhile to shout about.

Methinks James Allen is trying to be a Murray but failing miserably.

andygo

Original Poster:

6,911 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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He's failing miserably alright. Trouble is he's making us miserables. Jag's donkey is out of a job now, perhaps he would do a better job......

Eric Mc

122,689 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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And all those references to Coronation Street were driving me batty. Do they think that the average F1 fan is also a Corrie fan?

copen 660 turbo

279 posts

242 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Eric Mc said:
And all those references to Coronation Street were driving me batty. Do they think that the average F1 fan is also a Corrie fan?


we said the same thing in our house

rico

7,916 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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The F1 was on??

Nuff said...

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

246 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Eric Mc said:
And all those references to Coronation Street were driving me batty. Do they think that the average F1 fan is also a Corrie fan?

Apart from the odd film, F1 is the only thing I watch on ITV. Someone else can think up things for what I.T.V stands for.

55jnj

555 posts

290 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Eric Mc said:
And all those references to Coronation Street were driving me batty. Do they think that the average F1 fan is also a Corrie fan?


To be fair, I think he's directed to say this because the coverage had gone over into the normal "Corrie" time & their viewers would be jumping up & down shouting at the TV about missing something.

I don't think there's any assumption that GP fans (watchers ?) are also interested in Corrie.

Brundle is an utter professional, an excellent broadcaster who absolutely knows his game, 100%. I have a great deal of time for him. He seems to be respected by everyone involved in the business & his command of the pre-race pit-lane walk, when he's up against the (normally) German commentators, is wonderful.

James Allen no doubt tries to provide that degree of excitement that the great MW always used to, but no-one can slip into his shoes. Again, don't so much blame JA himself, he was chosen for the job to promote hype & excitement & again is directed "from above" to say & behave much in the way he does.

Given the fact they have to follow the race on the screens, keep an eye on the live timing data displays & report thereon, listen to what's coming into their ear all the time from the producer & at the same time, actually commentate, I think they do a bl..dy good job. I know I couldn't do it or anything like it.

nicholas blair

4,109 posts

290 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Said it long ago = another prat in the R Hammond mode.

Eric Mc

122,689 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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55jnj - no excuses allowed.

However, in actual fact, now and then Allen's true thoughts on the predicament of current F1 do leak out.

anonymous-user

60 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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jeez you should have been listening to it on R5... Maurice Hamilton is a great journalist/motorport writer and one I havea lot of respect for but his commentary was bloody awful. I had to turn it off as it was so disjointed and the continuity was awful. the third time he sadi "if you look at....." was too much and i swore very loudly in frustration. He couldnt tell the difference between a McLaren and a Williams and appeared to be very unfamiliar with the concept of commentary....

Eric Mc

122,689 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Maurice Hamilton is a very good motor sport journalist - but being a commentator is something very different. He was at his best when he acted as the "expert" to Jonathan Ledgard's commentary. Being promoted to full blown commentator is not always the best thing.

I always liked Murray Walker's description of the difference between his role and the role played by his assistant, James Hunt -

"I supplied the commentary and James supplied the comments". Which just about sums up the two roles nicely.

hornet

6,333 posts

256 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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Get Ben Edwards in there now....

I'm sick of hearing Allen's inane wittering about fantastic races when it's obvious to the eyes of anyone with eyes that it's dull dull dull. Don't insult my intelligence you muppet.