So, hawk-eye being fitted... What will happen?
So, hawk-eye being fitted... What will happen?
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TheHeretic

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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When will the first controversy be? scratchchin

mickk

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262 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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Will this mean they get rid of those stupid extra linesman at our European matches now?

TheHeretic

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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mickk said:
Will this mean they get rid of those stupid extra linesman at our European matches now?
Only if UEFA use hawk eye.

mickk

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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I reckon it's a great idea to use it but as has been said in the past, the ball may have crossed the line but why wasn't the obvious foul given 30 seconds before.

If you're going to use video referral then it should be the same as rugby imo. Not just to prove the ball crossed the line.

TheHeretic

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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mickk said:
I reckon it's a great idea to use it but as has been said in the past, the ball may have crossed the line but why wasn't the obvious foul given 30 seconds before.

If you're going to use video referral then it should be the same as rugby imo. Not just to prove the ball crossed the line.
Agree with this, absolutely.

mickk

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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Thinking about it, the FA could have just paid Sky for the use of the already existing monitors and saved themselves an absolute fortune.


TheHeretic

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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mickk said:
Thinking about it, the FA could have just paid Sky for the use of the already existing monitors and saved themselves an absolute fortune.

They could, but they want instant so the game is not stop start, I presume? No need for reviews, etc. They simply are told when the ball crosses the line.

mickk

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Saturday 10th August 2013
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Shame SAF has retired, would love to see his reaction if Hawkeye said his winning goal didn't cross the line. hehe

qotsa

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154 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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mickk said:
Shame SAF has retired, would love to see his reaction if Hawkeye said his winning goal didn't cross the line. hehe
or this


TwigtheWonderkid

47,441 posts

170 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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I hope the technology proves to be a complete flop, and they drop it. Incorrect goal line decisions, when they go in your favour, and one of the great joys of the game. And when they go against you, they give you an excuse for the defeat you probably would have suffered anyway.

As proven by idiots who seriously think if Lampard's goal had stood, we would have beaten the Germans, completely overlooking the fact that they were 10 times better than us.

simoid

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178 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Just like Geoff Hurst's biggrin

epom

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181 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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Was in Croke Park yesterday and it was used in the Hurling a few times. Obviously a ball travelling at that speed and that height (for points) can be hard to keep track of. Worked really well only took a few seconds and the big screen showed the actual ball trajectory. Excellent. Oh and Cork won, woooo wooooo get in there smile

SMcP114

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Monday 12th August 2013
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epom said:
Was in Croke Park yesterday and it was used in the Hurling a few times. Obviously a ball travelling at that speed and that height (for points) can be hard to keep track of. Worked really well only took a few seconds and the big screen showed the actual ball trajectory. Excellent. Oh and Cork won, woooo wooooo get in there smile
I watched the game, the hawkeye technology looked completely Father Ted to me and I would imagine the soccer version will be quite a bit easier on the eye.

Cracking game by the well, well done Cork.

hornetrider

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225 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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Goal line isn't enough. Should be for all incidents involving a goal (offside reviews for example) and awarding penalties.

TheHeretic

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Monday 12th August 2013
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hornetrider said:
Goal line isn't enough. Should be for all incidents involving a goal (offside reviews for example) and awarding penalties.
There is a system out there that can track all players, the ball, etc, and can say when there is an offside, and so on. I do wonder if it is possible to review stuff at the next break of play a bit like cricket or tennis? Would it spoil it? It hasn't spoiled the cricket, or the tennis.

hornetrider

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Monday 12th August 2013
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No I agree, I've not heard of that but if it's there it should be used. There is a natural break in play when a goal is scored, so in the time it takes to restart you very often know if it's offside or not, or has been stuck in by handball, or there's a blatant push, etc. So in real terms the restart wouldn't take any longer, would just be a goal kick rather than from the centre.

It works well in RL and RU, so I don't see why it shouldn't be used in footy.

obob

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214 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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hornetrider said:
No I agree, I've not heard of that but if it's there it should be used. There is a natural break in play when a goal is scored, so in the time it takes to restart you very often know if it's offside or not, or has been stuck in by handball, or there's a blatant push, etc. So in real terms the restart wouldn't take any longer, would just be a goal kick rather than from the centre.

It works well in RL and RU, so I don't see why it shouldn't be used in footy.
What if the ref didn't give a goal and the play carries on for another 5 min before it goes out for a throw in?

Le Pop

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254 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I stand to be corrected but I think it's the first law of football that cannot be applied through the game from top to bottom. Personally I welcome it because a goal should only be given if the ball crosses the line and vice versa. There can be millions resting on these decisions, so it's overdue. Oh, and ManUre will hopefully not win the title this season as a result (although probably need off-pitch timing before that happens rofl)

epom

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181 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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SMcP114 said:
epom said:
Was in Croke Park yesterday and it was used in the Hurling a few times. Obviously a ball travelling at that speed and that height (for points) can be hard to keep track of. Worked really well only took a few seconds and the big screen showed the actual ball trajectory. Excellent. Oh and Cork won, woooo wooooo get in there smile
I watched the game, the hawkeye technology looked completely Father Ted to me and I would imagine the soccer version will be quite a bit easier on the eye.

Cracking game by the well, well done Cork.
Possibly, but hey it was clear as to whether the ball was wide or not which really is the main thing. Not sure why it would need dressing up. If it can be used succesfully in hurling where the ball is travelling so much faster there is no reason why it can't be used very very well for soccer.

hornetrider

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Tuesday 13th August 2013
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obob said:
hornetrider said:
No I agree, I've not heard of that but if it's there it should be used. There is a natural break in play when a goal is scored, so in the time it takes to restart you very often know if it's offside or not, or has been stuck in by handball, or there's a blatant push, etc. So in real terms the restart wouldn't take any longer, would just be a goal kick rather than from the centre.

It works well in RL and RU, so I don't see why it shouldn't be used in footy.
What if the ref didn't give a goal and the play carries on for another 5 min before it goes out for a throw in?
What do you mean, didn't give a goal? How has he 'not given' a goal? Because if he's done anything that means he's intervened with the whistle.